Remove Dishonorable Kills

[Turncoat]

I've seen a few, "you obviously didn't play vanilla" bullshit type posts, I've played since beta.

DK is retarded, it doesn't promote anything other than avoiding a certain type of gameplay...

If you want to avoid PvP, cool, do it but don't make everyone else suffer. There's a reason DK was removed, it was fucking retarded.

I hate to sound like a dick but it's pointless, I'll still gank you, I'll still kill your mobs, I don't give a fuck about rank just like I didn't in vanilla. You might think it'll help you level, but it won't. I don't give two fucks about DKs, I've pushed rank on vanilla back in the day, I have no plans to do it again, that was a lot of work, I'll push the most DKs and PvP in raid gear.

So, fuck everyone, you still will get no rest.

[Magian]

I hope the Dev doesn't waste their valuable time fixing things to address this frivolous issue.

DK were going to be a system where if you got enough you'd actually lose your faction and be an outcast. Ultimately I think everyone would have been able to kill you. They never developed that system sadly. Where it would have led would have been interesting.

I would like to suggest something new. Each DK = -10% reduction in HK earned. That would be cool. It is about honor not rampant murder.

TBH I like to see this whining, it is pleasurable to see these pvp newbs tears earned through a hardcore system albeit unfinished.

While we are making a wishlist of shit we want in game....WTB Hardcore verson of WoW. Hardcore like in Diablo II. Perma-death.

[Simonich]

Bumpity bump. Can a GM say what they think about it and close the thread if the decision is permanent?

[PanTheSatyr]

I think that killing someone 10 levels or more lower than you should be a DHK. Since we're asking for things not in Vanilla, why not have something that promotes fair wPvP? Can we have flying mounts too?

[Simonich]

I think that killing someone 10 levels or more lower than you should be a DHK. Since we're asking for things not in Vanilla, why not have something that promotes fair wPvP? Can we have flying mounts too?

I have already stated my points in my first post, with thoughts and all. You didn't even think what you said.

If that happened, people could abuse it and go as lvl 1 against huge raids and die on purpose by the slightest AoE or accidental attack giving dhk to everyone, so that would ruin world PvP completely.

Your example of asking of flying mounts is nothing compared to this.

[Setup]

I am quite sure that noone really wants to keep them up. I mean why?

For de-ranking purposes.

After finishing ranking on feenix warsong, several players would use DK's to lower their rank to 0 for vanity.

If DK's were to be removed, I would want at least one location where DKs could still be accessed, perhaps with instant respawn timers.

[Simonich]

I am quite sure that noone really wants to keep them up. I mean why?

For de-ranking purposes.

After finishing ranking on feenix warsong, several players would use DK's to lower their rank to 0 for vanity.

If DK's were to be removed, I would want at least one location where DKs could still be accessed, perhaps with instant respawn timers.

Read again. It was suggested that the one doing the killing blow or the one who tagged will only earn the dhk, that's another suggestion.

[Xylon666Darkstar]

You easily can disable DK by changing the realmlist and never changing it back.

DK is there for a reason, so no high level cant farm low lvl areas and kill quest givers and low lvl all the time.
You want Ranking you cant gank.
You want to Raid the town, you need to sacrifice more for that Glory.
You want to be Gnomish Engineer, you cant get Goblin.
You want Paladin, you cant get Shaman.

Make choice and live with it.
Its a tough game.

Next "I want the game changed to fit my Playstile" Topic please
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+1

[Malkore]

You easily can disable DK by changing the realmlist and never changing it back.

DK is there for a reason, so no high level cant farm low lvl areas and kill quest givers and low lvl all the time.
You want Ranking you cant gank.
You want to Raid the town, you need to sacrifice more for that Glory.
You want to be Gnomish Engineer, you cant get Goblin.
You want Paladin, you cant get Shaman.

Make choice and live with it.
Its a tough game.

Next "I want the game changed to fit my Playstile" Topic please
/end

+1

[Simonich]

Bump, not giving up on this.

Yeah so I decided to make a wpvp raid to Redbridge for our fellow lvl 15-25 hordies from barrens, brought around 30 people...

Ofcourse even with spwmming raid warning "don't kill this NPC" there are always few idiots who do it anyway, oh great,there goes my rank... Why punish people for world pvping? This is absurd.

And I'm so tired of the response "nah I don't want dhks sorry bro" which I got hundreds of times.
Rankers can't wpvp. World PvP sure isn't the best honor gain for city raids etc, by attending as rankers, they put aside their honor gain, but punish them too?

As listed above, remove dishonorable kills, or, make civilians unkillable (like the NPCs in northshire) , or make the dhk be given to the killing blow only.