Nostalrius Begins - Quality wow vanilla realm (1.12)

Posted: **Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:38 pm**

It certainly makes it much more fair with the new queue system. However, it can be made even more fair. People can still get the majority of their teams in a BG by calling out to queue at the same time on a voice program.

Simply make it to where when anyone queues for a BG they are put into a random sort list, that totally randomizes what BG they go into regardless of when they queue. Perhaps within a 60-180 second time frame. THIS would be MOST fair. If you don't like it, go PVE. I still see strong premades that rape pugs every 2-3 games in WSG. And about the same in AB.

Make queues put you into a randomized list for what particular WSG or AB you get thrown into. Make queueing at the same time ineffective for premades that try to do this out of groups.

Posted: **Sun Aug 09, 2015 10:46 pm**

Dreez wrote:If you haven't gasped it yet:
Not everyone PvPs to farm honor and get high ranks for slightly better items.
Some just do it for fun.

Everyone knows that there will be some putting more effort into ranking up because they want to achieve the ranks as quick as possible. That's understandable and OK, there is nothing to say against premading.

However the current situation where 90% of the games consist of no pvp action is tremendous.

Let's take a look at an example:
- 2 Horde premades are in queue along with 50 pugs
- Alliance premades and pugs get instant queues

The alliance premade, queuing for both WSG and AB at the same time will instantly open up 2 BG instances.
They will only join 1, the other one is going to be unused for now.

But what happens with that?
Horde will immediately enter as they have queue times, alliance pugs queuing after the BG opened will be put into the already opened instance.
Other premades will not be invited to this BG anymore since there already is one pug and not enough open slots and thus open new instances.

This results in tons of 14v3 games.

Now let's add chinese wintraders:
- alliance chinese wintrader group queues AB + WSG when their horde partners are out of queue, both instantly pop up, they leave both queues. The BGs are still opened and single alliance players will fill them up and thus result in the wintraders being able to queue again and open even more BGs.

Repeat until the horde group gets instant queues and then keep the balance.

What is the total outcome:
hundreds of empty BGs, absolutely no PvP action, premades literally afking 99% of the time and pugs fighting with 3 others against full premades.

Premade PoV: Everything's fine, they get their honor even faster (as seen this week)
Pug PoV: absolutely no PvP action

Kinda funny how the premaders still tell everyone to form their own premade if they don't like the current pug situation, are you retarded? The system won't work without the single people blocking premade vs. empty BGs --> less honor for you
+ judging from my own experience with premades especially on this server, it is absolutely boring (aside from almost everyone being either high or drunk)

not to forget the shady business of agreements with chinese wintraders, not reporting them unless they break your brackets

TL; DR: queue system is fucked and massively abused

You're very wrong and that would completely remove premading from the game. That's not a viable solution whatsoever.

Posted: **Sun Aug 09, 2015 11:55 pm**

Sorry, I guess you don't want competition. Just Rank 14 handed to you on a silver platter.

Also, while were at it we should just take away group Queueing period.

Posted: **Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:06 am**

No, deuel, that is not a good option, i'd simply prolongue queue times immensively and premading in general isn't a bad thing. It's just the way it is done and the way the system is being abused.

Nostalrius Begins - Quality wow vanilla realm (1.12)

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