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Tyrande's respawn timer was simply increased, but that does not solve the issue of players with quests being unable to turn in. To fully solve the problem, her respawn timer should be reduced, but her health / power actually represent a faction leaders. This gives Horde a reasonable challenge for honor that isn't abusable, plus players have a much better chance of being able to turn in their quests.

You can't use the "Non-vanilla" argument, because the devs changed her respawn timer to a non vanilla rate afaik.

Cant turn my quest for 1 week.

She must have at least 500khp, not 17khp

Greengrass wrote:Cant turn my quest for 1 week.

She must have at least 500khp, not 17khp

I thought she has like 250k, which still isnt very much to deal with considering theres no elite guards or not enough of them from what I saw.. I heard she is hyper susceptible to being kited, she really should have spells being a priest and all.

She has 250k health but she is kitable.

Since I took advantage of her respawn timer and 15k honor given on kill, devs made the respawn timer longer. Much longer

A long respawn time only elevates the problem for the quest-doers but what it's probably aimed at is the profitabillity of camping her.

Pokeypointy wrote:A long respawn time only elevates the problem for the quest-doers but what it's probably aimed at is the profitabillity of camping her.

Thats exactly what im pointing out. Increase her difficulty but lower the respawn time, so she's more likely to be alive and undisturbed, and isn't so easily killed.

Or maybe just lower respawn timer back to what it was and make this a method to get honor to make city raiding popular.

After all the reward is 15k SHARED. (You get 1k in a 15 man group)

As this goes popular, people will also want to wipe the attackers cause of their honor, and cause its fun.

What about Staghelm? The info I can find is inconclusive but I remember him being the Darnassus leader, not Tyrande. A similar situation to Benedictus/Bolvar?

tobor wrote:What about Staghelm? The info I can find is inconclusive but I remember him being the Darnassus leader, not Tyrande. A similar situation to Benedictus/Bolvar?

Staghelm is really strong, not kitable, he has spells that do a lot of damage and he has more hp then Tyrande.
Yes, Staghelm is the leader of Darnassus, Tyrande is the leader of night elves.

Rizzonico wrote:

tobor wrote:What about Staghelm? The info I can find is inconclusive but I remember him being the Darnassus leader, not Tyrande. A similar situation to Benedictus/Bolvar?

Staghelm is really strong, not kitable, he has spells that do a lot of damage and he has more hp then Tyrande.
Yes, Staghelm is the leader of Darnassus, Tyrande is the leader of night elves.

Stats are arbitrary, the racial and faction leader is Tyrande. Blizz knew this and like other racial faction leaders, she received that big HP buff in Wrath or whatever to better represent her status. Staghelm imo is more of a lore npc to fit the story of darnassus.

The problem still stands that she deservedly needs to be stronger because she is a significant quest NPC, and gives too much free honor, even if on a long respawn.