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Bring back the Original queuing system

PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 6:31 am
by Caspus
I mean. This is a blizzlike server. The old honor system isn't perfect but its a vanilla server, its suppose to replicate vanilla, that is the whole reason behind this server. Why change Blizzlike features because a few people are whining? 9/10 this is their first vanilla experience. Sorry but not sorry, this is what vanilla is like. I enjoy it the way it is, and so do many other people. I don't want to see content going easymode to appease newcomers. I mean, thats kinda why retail is shit at the moment. Please return the queuing system back to what it originally was.

This is a PvP server afterall, if you want to casually do PvP, ranks shouldn't matter to you. Go kill horde/alliance out in the world. There is a steady 7k pop, you'll get a fair share of pvp outside BG's.

Don't stray away from what you promised. The changes may not seem much but if you keep this up we could end up with dungeon finder.

Re: Bring back the Original queuing system

PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 6:58 am
by Ohr
Ohr wrote:
PhilipRed wrote:Ranking is not about pvp, is about farming honor to get some items.


I think both me, and the devs, and everyone who enjoys actually fighting other players will agree, that this is no longer the vision of Nostalrius. With the last change they are basically saying that everyone should have an even chance of achieving rank14, while keeping premade vs premade having nothing to do with ranking.

They put prem v prem on an island, so you can do it only if you want to prove that your team/guild is better than the enemy team/guild you are facing (an actual challenge - WOW!)
While ranks can only be achieved by playing a lot with up to 4 friends and actually having to fight for a win. If you think this will screw over the rankers, well guess what, the system is dynamic. If no one can make more than 300 000 honor, that means that people going for Rank14 will need no more than that.

All these changes did, is massively deflate the honor point requirement to achieve a high rank and somewhat introduced being able to actually beat your opponents a requirement to achieve those ranks.
RIP Player vs Flag

Now if they reset everyone's rank (ofc not gonna happen and would be absurd), it'd be so much fun to race for ranks in this manner (This is only my opinion and I honestly hope it doesn't happen for the sake of the people who spent months playing Player vs Flag. Despite the ways of spending time, time is a precious resource as we all have only a limited amount of it)

Re: Bring back the Original queuing system

PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:00 am
by PhilipRed
If devs really wanted to relate ranking and pvp they should have disabled group queue, and ban countdown premades.

With this new system some Bgs have insanely long queues, you cant take 2 queues, so not only the rankers are having a bad time, but also the PuGs.

Disable group queue and ban countdown premades ( yes there are some), that would be much better.

Re: Bring back the Original queuing system

PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:21 am
by Ohr
You can't disable group que as people still want to play with friends/guildies. It's a social game. The countdown rankers do deserve a permaban, imo.

Re: Bring back the Original queuing system

PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 4:04 pm
by Ghostly
Just bring back the multiqueue for pugs. There was no reason to disable it for solo queuers in the first place, it had nothing to do with premades dodging each other which was the main problem.

Re: Bring back the Original queuing system

PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 4:11 pm
by skuishy
I agree with Ohr, This is a MMORPG, meaning playing with friends, others, then togheter.. I can understand frustating by players who dont want to wait 30min to play a bg.. it's a real pb that will never be solve i think because a lot of people has not a 'correct' education and have 0 respect of things(without injury anyone) it's just life.., it's just like that... Dont mean i like that coz, as a lot of player, i have a work, a life, and i dont like to waste 30min ingame to do nothing.
But one thing is sure, i prefer that system, cause the old one wasn't pvp, it was just anti game system with 1-2v15players and made a game without any pvp gameplays/skills/etc.. and i know it, i was one of the first to crying for that. And if u want premade and are not r8-9 min , ppl just dont invite you.... sadness. and it's not while playing 1v15 game u will reach it :)
We will see if devs/admins can make something better about that, but i'm not sure...
While this time, enjoy ;)
Regards

Re: Bring back the Original queuing system

PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 4:13 pm
by Bioness
Blizzlike feeling >>>>> true blizzlike

If you can't understand this, you should just the server. So no, queues should not go back the way they were. Could it be improved? Yes. Is it still better than that farmfest it was before? Absolutely.

Re: Bring back the Original queuing system

PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 4:53 pm
by kuurtzen
and why change it back cause a few people are whinning? The great majority of people are more than happy with the queueing system the way it is now. even healthycow isnt complaining that much anymore

Re: Bring back the Original queuing system

PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 5:13 pm
by PhilipRed
And dont forget to report countdown premades!

Re: Bring back the Original queuing system

PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 11:59 pm
by rusmaxwell
Just stood up in queue and noticed this retarded innovation. This new thing will couse Much less entrances to bg/day. There Is no premades on 40-49 lvl. Even when I am paying with my 60 lvl char premades are boring but this change does not worth it. That's my opinion. If u want to keep it this way than u need to make queue information available such as: number of horde and alliance players standing on queue so ppl could choose the queue they lake. Any way the way it is now will couse that people would much likely go at WSG than at AB and AV