Nostalrius Begins - Quality wow vanilla realm (1.12)

I am quite sure that noone really wants to keep them up. I mean why? All it does is to greatly discourage world pvp, which is awful, and i know you guys are supporters of world pvping.

What good things does this punishment system do? Give me a thing. Perhaps discourages killing quest npcs? But its world pvp, people will have to defend themselves, or call for help.

If the above statement seems too rude, there are sure other solutions to make things better!

Since they are flagged as civilians, people dont want to kill them, but they will eventually do it anyway if they are in huge raids cause of reaction or Area of Effect. Noone really wants to kill them if they give dhk...so you could instead make them unattackable from the opposite faction, just like the vendor npcs in the starting zones!
I've seen plenty of people not participating in world pvp for that very reason, i hope you take this into consideration!

That's what you get when you zerg a city and kill civilian, deal with it !

Here's a few reasons:
- It's annoying for people who try to level up in the barrens to not have their NPCs spawned "well call for help", sure, we all have friends that are lvl 60, ready to come over to a crappy place like the barrens, only to realise that the guy left. And the Barrens aren't even that far away.
- It goes with "rules of war", war has usually tended to not be a "slaughter them all" thingy, even though that mostly failed.
- Avoiding them shows skill, because it means you know what you're actually hitting with your spells.


So yeah, "noone wants to keep them up", but I do.
I've seen plenty of people not doing PVP because they just plain suck when they have to think quickly or don't know what they're doing, I consider the ones complaining about DK in the "they don't know what they're doing" category.

agree with Dishonorable Kills stuff. it's awfull, thanks to that people are afraid of invading. the most fun aspect of vanilla is invade towns, but with Dishonorable Kills this goes to hell.

Why you think after vanilla this Dishonorable Kills thing was eliminated?. Really people, full vanilla experience is not good in all aspects, i think some things like this ruins aspects of the game.

Its annoying right? Make them invulnerable then, noone wants to kill them anyway.

Avoiding them shows skill, but in a 40 man raid there will be always an idiot inside that will do the kill, and everyone has to pay for it by ruining their rank. Just hell no

Drooppi wrote:- Avoiding them shows skill, because it means you know what you're actually hitting with your spells.

IIRC, there is at least one civilian in tarren mill that aggros enemy players and cannot be killed without earning a DHK. At the very least DHK should be solely on those who struck/killed the civ, not everyone in party or raid.

i agree.. make them invul or remove the dishonor kill

leave everyhing how it was in patch 1.12
this is a 1.12 server for a reason

I believe making things better for everyone is better than staying mazochist for 100% blizzlike.

Oh look, I got dhk, but its fun cause blixzlike, right? No?

Isn't there a title for so many dishonorable kills?