"Improved vanilla" realm

[twocows]

I've seen a few topics with people suggesting things outside of the scope of a strict vanilla emulation server. The devs here are going for as close of an authentic vanilla experience as possible and I think that's great. But it seems like there might be some interest in an "improved vanilla" realm: a vanilla realm with some common sense improvements. Think stuff like class and spec balance to make non-viable specs viable, backporting minor convenience features, and other minor improvements to the game that weren't in the original but make a lot of sense. Stuff that isn't "authentic vanilla" but still makes sense and would arguably make the game better while still maintaining the feel and good content of vanilla. These changes would be limited to things that were almost universally well-received by the player base, so things like dungeon finder would be excluded since a lot of people don't like that.

There are several existing suggestion threads up right now that would fit into this kind of thing. Right now, they're impossible to implement with the current goals of the server. Some of them are good ideas, though, and would fit great into a realm whose purpose up front is to improve vanilla a bit.

[Simonich]

+1 my full support, blizzlike is overrated. No big changes, nothing that will allow people to be stronger, just common sense improvements

[cler1k92]

I think it is a good idea.

I remember me and a friend talking about how much we would like a vanilla realm with like x3 EP and all the 40 Content adjusted to 20 or 25. On top we talked about those skill trees which were totally useless in Vanilla.

But I also think this is not Nostalrius... maybe someday there will be another Project, that fixes some Issues which were not that great in Vanilla. Maybe someday.... a Vanilla 2.0 Project?

[Simonich]

I think it is a good idea.

I remember me and a friend talking about how much we would like a vanilla realm with like x3 EP and all the 40 Content adjusted to 20 or 25. On top we talked about those skill trees which were totally useless in Vanilla.

But I also think this is not Nostalrius... maybe someday there will be another Project, that fixes some Issues which were not that great in Vanilla. Maybe someday.... a Vanilla 2.0 Project?

Not that much dude, just things like make object block line of sight and remove dishonorable kills.

It will remain blizzLIKE , but the developers must decide what they believe is better for our gameplay, not blindly following the full blizzlike plan

[Letokteren]

It's very subjective what we can call a "good" implementation.

It's very likely that at Blizzard they do what they do because they think that that is the best for their game. Like first the 25, then the 20 men raiding, the different mach making systems, the speeding up of the leveling process, you name it.

Many people are here because they think that the decisions Blizzard has made are not the right ones.

Which raises the question: why would it be any different this time? How can you decide which implementation will be the best for the community?

[pinacolata]

+1 to this post

[Shiggs13]

If you want an improved realm, go play somewhere else. Devs has said it countless times that they wanted only one realm with both the Pros and Cons of vanilla wow. If you want to find the post, check one of the many people asking for a PvE server thread.

[twocows]

I don't see anything wrong with putting the idea out there. There are certain issues that pretty much everyone agrees are issues. It's outside of the scope of what they're doing now at this particular moment, but there's no reason that if they have more resources someday, they couldn't give something like this a shot. That's what a suggestions forum is for.

[Drooppi]

Example of what "pretty much everyone agrees are issues" ?
I don't recall any, actually...

[netherfist]

I don't see anything wrong with putting the idea out there. There are certain issues that pretty much everyone agrees are issues. It's outside of the scope of what they're doing now at this particular moment, but there's no reason that if they have more resources someday, they couldn't give something like this a shot. That's what a suggestions forum is for.

I completely agree with your post. I think that one day this is definitely a possibility. This is definitely an option for growth for this server. But the community, and the server itself needs to grow (in their mentality) to get there.

Right now, the hot thing is Vanilla - 100% blizzlike. That's what brought 6.7k+ plus players on this server. It doesn't mean that one day people will not be fed up with the server, or bored of the content that it provides. When that day comes, this will be on the plate. Something new and different, yet have a familiar resemblance to core Vanilla.

Let's see where this server goes. 6.7k players, this could be the next molten-wow, for Vanilla content.