The Red Dawn's efforts against the alliance.

[Simonich]

You mean "fearsome banners" not "fearful banners". The way you have it makes Red Dawn sound scared when I assume you mean you're intimidating. Otherwise, sounds cool. I'll definitely follow this closely.

Woops, my bad!

Wierd that this racist and Fake dude is still going.

got tons of gold himself but tells others to give out gold and bags etc to low levels

he dosint even kick Ninjas from his guild what a true hero

Hahahaha xD damn trolling man :S

In fact these days i dont even know if people are serious or just trolling on forums, im seriously not sure if youre serious or not.

You think you have bragging rights? You don't. It's world pvp and there's nothing to really brag about unless you do something extraordinary.

Keep killing the Xiaos though please.

Is bragging all we do on forums? This is more like a reminder theres some world pvp going on, cause well, i still have to see other dedicated world pvp groups. (We move in groups of 3 to 10 ussualy, as a guild).
Excluding those guys like i saw yesterday being like "Nono dont kill yet, hes honorless target" (just landed in FP) We witnessed that twice and it was hilarious. Its like the only reason someone would do world pvp/BGs is honor and rank by default.

Also, i seriously dont see anyone else dedicated to world pvp, making a world-pvp oriented guild and actually going for it, i ussualy type /who stormwind, never i see anything except the times me and my comrades go there

But theres a motive too. Just yesterday i got like 3 lvl 60 recruits including a r12 player that is about to quit ranking. They were familiar with this on forums so this is also some kind of poster laying around for recruitment

[Simonich]

What is PvP-oriented leveling from level 5? Elaborate on that since I'm tempted to make a Horde char.

The zones were thinking off are the following.

Elwynn Forest 5-10 Westfall 10-20 Duskwood 20-30 Stranglethorn Vale 30-45 Blasted Lands 45-60
Redridge and Swamp of Sorrows to be added or to replace another zone. Burning Steppes+Searing Gorge aswell, including blackrock mountain control.

All of those zones have a heavy alliance presence. The ones that offer no quests will be the ones where i will try to create my own "quests", having items dropped by mobs as objectives, which will be basically traded for silver/gold or gear. We will try to make it more rewarding than the normal lvling road, more exciting, pvp-oriented and dangerous. We may apply a plot to this whole thing for those who would enjoy minor roleplay, or to know why the hell is he being sent to do tasks in enemy territory.

All those zones are close to each other. We will have 60s of our guild or other volunteers in the above mentioned zones, invading various important objectives, assisting members below lvl 60 that are part of the expedition when needed, and generally do world pvp aswell.

We will make these zones more welcoming for the horde and less welcoming for the alliance, which will definetily start conflicts and who knows, maybe those zones turn into "battlegrounds" later on xD. Thats the general idea.

[Shaffarz]

Enemy players drop the Alterac Valley blood, flesh, heads, and spines (and their horde-equivalent drops) at all times.

Bounty Hunter Korlak in Orgrimmar accepts them in stacks of five, ten, and twenty in exchange for increasing payouts of honor, money, and maybe items proportionate to character level.

Never leveled Alliance, but the same principle applies.

Think Kum'isha but instead of draenethyst fragments and spheres, you're harvesting enemy organs in exchange for loot.





Never going to happen of course, "blizzlike" and all that, but it's interesting to daydream nonetheless.

[Simonich]

Enemy players drop the Alterac Valley blood, flesh, heads, and spines (and their horde-equivalent drops) at all times.

Bounty Hunter Korlak in Orgrimmar accepts them in stacks of five, ten, and twenty in exchange for increasing payouts of honor, money, and maybe items proportionate to character level.

Never leveled Alliance, but the same principle applies.

Think Kum'isha but instead of draenethyst fragments and spheres, you're harvesting enemy organs in exchange for loot.





Never going to happen of course, "blizzlike" and all that, but it's interesting to daydream nonetheless.

I know damn right that the database of the game will not change, nor i asked so.

At certain times when im there, which is almost everyday for some time, i tell people to bring me items, like lets say, wolf meat, only dropped in elwynn, unlikely to have had in bag before summoned in enemy zone.
For those who would enjoy a plot, well, resources like food are needed to back up an expedition in hostile lands, no? Each would bring about a huge amount, like 40 meat, and would be rewarded with some coin, much more than the quests would give, and not hard to gather for a lvl 60 player.

Just enough coin to pay all expenses on abilities and other stuff. Or also gear, preferably profession-made gear or cheap pieces in Auction house. Low lvl ones are not expensive to get. I will have an alt with huge supplies of food/water and gear rewards, which will be ressuplied once in awhile, that will give some buffs away too ^^

I already have a lvl 20 warlock to transport people. Thing is, i cant be always there, well, i hope i will get some active volunteers for this.

Well, they cant be there always either, nor my summoning services.
For that part, much possibly when im on, i will be recruiting in the starting zones for this. Once gathered enough people, they will be summoned and alltogether be sent to bring items as a prologue quest. Perhaps 1 or 2 quests. Or an attack to an alliance town as intro etc.

After that they will receive enough coin, gear and bags to move on on their own. Well, in groups of people of their own level preferably, it can be fun and world pvp may occur even in zone protected areas (seen it my self). Gathering professions are recommended, gonna steal natural resources of the alliance, hehe

This kind of support will be given mostly below lvl 30, above it, the zone should offer the quests themselves, and some rep towards honored with race faction could be grabbed. After all, i believe that quests arent always better, sometimes they actually may slow you down aswell as you seek to get those few objectives left for the quest.

One playermade "quest" could be well...gathering some guys lvl 15-25 at the borders of redridge, then telling them to return, but with 50 honorable kills more in their honor tab and they will be rewarded ^^ after all the plot in this is war against the alliance.

Once they reach lvl 60 (if they dont "die" (quit) on their way) well, i will ask them to become part of the body of this operation. Eventually as people may grow in lvls in a pvpish environment, they may be eager to invade Stormwind later, perhaps?

[CrackBaker]

Such leveling would go extremely slow. You'd be stuck at level 5/15/25, wherever you are.

[Simonich]

Such leveling would go extremely slow. You'd be stuck at level 5/15/25, wherever you are.

I dont think so. You'd just kill npcs just like you would normally, without xp rewards from quests which really isnt that important as i have noticed, it gives you the xp of another 6-8 mobs killed, and it may actually slow you down as you will walk towards and back from the quest targets/wait npcs to spawn.

With gear earned much faster, therefore faster lvling. Access to all abilities, as it is easy to reward below lvl 30. Grinding is more effective, at cases as ive seen.

But it wont be exactly grinding, it will feel less pointless with player-made tasks and a plot in mind.

You are much more likely to be killed, but hell, we will always do our best to avenge you, "For the Horde!"

Leveling may end up to be slower, if you end up to do many pvp battles, but some people would rather enjoy their way to lvl 60 rather race to it, and a pvp-oriented leveling of a player-made "campaign".

[Simonich]

Suggestions that may be good can be applied, this is player-made, anyone who wants to add on this shall do so!

[Hitlin]

most crazy guy ever