GMs threatening to ban players for Silithus quest "Exploit"

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GMs threatening to ban players for Silithus quest "Exploit"

by H0llowP0int » Fri Feb 12, 2016 12:24 am

Dear Nostalrius GM's

Let me get this right... so YOU put a bugged quest NPC into the world, and people who probably didn't realize this was a bug got this loot (stop being so RUDE you know some of us never did any of these quests and didn't know it was a bug, I personally thought it was part of the patch as did MANY MANY OTHERS. Let's be real and acknowledge many of us see a yellow ? and run up thinking "Ooo a piece of candy" )... probably deleted or vendored their other items and replaced them with said quest items and now you expect us to delete them so we don't get banned for YOUR mistake?????? That is ridiculous. If I vendored them are you going to come take that money away from me????? Especially since now I have to REPLACE said gloves? Did you know the AH prices on cloth gloves has skyrocketed since this happened? Guess I should go to raid tonight with no gloves? It was YOUR screw up. Really MESSED UP to punish your player base for YOUR mistake. Are you going to restore the gloves to me I sold? Are you going to give me money to buy new gloves? It was your mistake, not MINE so I don't get why I am being punished. Such a bunch of BS. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

I understand that you are just a group of human beings working on a project probably larger than you ever imagined.... but you need to stop punishing the community for YOUR screw ups. I have seen many GM posts about how it should have been an "obvious" bug. No. Many of us haven't been to Silithus to quest in a DECADE. Punishing players because of your mistake, while meanwhile actual exploiters go unpunished. GG Nost.
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Re: GMs threatening to ban players for Silithus quest "Explo

by Böw » Fri Feb 12, 2016 12:43 am

the fact that you leveld to 60 and did quests and never encountered a quest tha gave really really good blue rewards without you doing a damn thing just makes your entire argument invalid like if you htink for 3 seconds before pushing a button you should realize its not normal
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Re: GMs threatening to ban players for Silithus quest "Explo

by H0llowP0int » Fri Feb 12, 2016 12:46 am

You need to realize that I don't read quest text and pick up quests all the time. When I see a marker on my map I go turn in. It's not my responsibility to double check quests on a data base before turning in. Maybe if Nost could stop screwing up and then blaming and punishing players for DEVS mistakes this wouldnt be an issue.
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Re: GMs threatening to ban players for Silithus quest "Explo

by Datruth » Fri Feb 12, 2016 12:51 am

You make it sound like they implemented that quest on purpose just to have an excuse for banning random people. It's a bug, and they are handling it like a bug should be before fixing it.
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Re: GMs threatening to ban players for Silithus quest "Explo

by Obamacare » Fri Feb 12, 2016 12:52 am

Actually Bow, I hadn't done the content in so long, that I assumed I had previously done a quest that had not yet had the reward implemented. So yea, perfectly plausible if you do think about it for more than 3 seconds bud.
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Re: GMs threatening to ban players for Silithus quest "Explo

by Elexyr » Fri Feb 12, 2016 12:52 am

Even in retail there is a rule where if you abuse in-game bugs/exploits, intentional or not, you may be subjected to sanctions against your account. It's all down to the discretion of the staff.

General rule is to question if something doesn't seem right, and to not abuse it.
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Re: GMs threatening to ban players for Silithus quest "Explo

by Dreez » Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:02 am

Elexyr wrote:Even in retail there is a rule where if you abuse in-game bugs/exploits, intentional or not, you may be subjected to sanctions against your account. It's all down to the discretion of the staff.

General rule is to question if something doesn't seem right, and to not abuse it.

to my knowledge players didn't even get banned for abusing one of the lottery APIs that made them immune to all attacks. it was simply fixed
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Re: GMs threatening to ban players for Silithus quest "Explo

by Armilus » Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:10 am

Pretty sure they didn't say anyone would get banned, they just said the ToU would be enforced. Sounds like people are freaking out for no reason to me.

If you equip the items and use then, yes you might get a temp ban or something. If you picked up the items then went on vacation for 3 weeks and they are just sitting in your bags, I really don't think they will care to much.

This community get's worked up so easily, it's amazing that the GM's are able to control themselves. I would troll the SHIT out of you guys if I was a GM :P
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Re: GMs threatening to ban players for Silithus quest "Explo

by Imbaslap » Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:12 am

Armilus wrote:Pretty sure they didn't say anyone would get banned, they just said the ToU would be enforced. Sounds like people are freaking out for no reason to me.

If you equip the items and use then, yes you might get a temp ban or something. If you picked up the items then went on vacation for 3 weeks and they are just sitting in your bags, I really don't think they will care to much.

This community get's worked up so easily, it's amazing that the GM's are able to control themselves. I would troll the SHIT out of you guys if I was a GM :P

I dunno, when GMs perma ban you for picking flowers or hitting a rock. I would be skeptical too.
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Re: GMs threatening to ban players for Silithus quest "Explo

by Dreez » Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:15 am

Armilus wrote:Pretty sure they didn't say anyone would get banned, they just said the ToU would be enforced. Sounds like people are freaking out for no reason to me.

If you equip the items and use then, yes you might get a temp ban or something. If you picked up the items then went on vacation for 3 weeks and they are just sitting in your bags, I really don't think they will care to much.

https://en.nostalrius.org/terms-of-use

Nostalrius staff may suspend or close any account if you violate, or assist others in violating, the sections set forth below
A. Cheats; methods to influence and/or facilitate the game-play, including exploits of any existing in-game bugs, and thereby granting you and/or any other user an advantage.


IV. Last warning
A last warning is given before a permanent ban.
Abuse of in-game bugs;


V. Permanent ban
Abuse of major in-game bugs;


--> enforcing the rules means you will receive a final warning that will last for eternity.
Accidentally hitting complete on an other bugged quest or simply continuing to auto attack after a duel ended (see Finalflash) will then get you permanently banned.
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