Keep it clean, keep it vanilla

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Re: Keep it clean, keep it vanilla

by rewind » Mon Feb 16, 2015 3:26 pm

Regnam1 wrote:if u want a lvl 55 char cuz u played on beta
then go play on Feenix al'akir .. we are here to enjoy vanilla not a freee ride


They never asked for a lvl 55 character, just for their beta character to be restored at some point.
Anyway stop bumping this topic, the question was closed by the staff so why are you people coming back with that ?
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Re: Keep it clean, keep it vanilla

by TheLockKing » Mon Feb 16, 2015 3:31 pm

100% is not what anyone should try and go for. Blizzard has royally screwed up before, specially in Vanilla. What they should focus on is emulating everything Blizzard got right (even if it means nullifying changes they made to certain encounters) while fixing the small bugs that never made it out like the useless specs.
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Re: Keep it clean, keep it vanilla

by Skuggor » Mon Feb 16, 2015 3:35 pm

Rewrew, what about the old char ? We aren't gonna retrieve them ? Kind of lasy to seek the announcement :p

About "reward for the beta testers", well, the best reward is Nostalrius now. With a huge community waiting for the release and all the work done since.
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Re: Keep it clean, keep it vanilla

by Regnam1 » Mon Feb 16, 2015 3:40 pm

rewind wrote:
Regnam1 wrote:if u want a lvl 55 char cuz u played on beta
then go play on Feenix al'akir .. we are here to enjoy vanilla not a freee ride


They never asked for a lvl 55 character, just for their beta character to be restored at some point.
Anyway stop bumping this topic, the question was closed by the staff so why are you people coming back with that ?


like ur profile picture that beard
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Re: Keep it clean, keep it vanilla

by Askental » Mon Feb 16, 2015 3:41 pm

Peeps,

This discussion is from november, and the characters referred to are from Nostalrius before it went international. Most played for several months if not years. As quoted previously, the server was considered out of beta for more than two years at this point. It's not some 48hr "beta test"... Nobody wants a free lvl 55. :roll:

Skandale wrote:Remember that without the people playing on the server, the server is nothing


This is exactly the reason why this question was raised in the first place. Some people felt like they were told to fuck off after years of playing here, without warning, because the staff chose to target a wider audience.
As Rewind said there is no point in discussing this now.
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Re: Keep it clean, keep it vanilla

by Svalur » Mon Feb 16, 2015 3:44 pm

Wow talk about a necro o.0 - Though it would be lovely if Daemon or Viper would give us an answer before 28/2 about restoring old characters :|
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Re: Keep it clean, keep it vanilla

by Lexenadarr » Mon Feb 16, 2015 3:46 pm

I once noticed people on the Nost forums tended more towards the purist, dogmatic and elitist type whereas people on Kronos are generally speaking more relaxed and pragmatic. Glad to see my analysis proves truer every thread I read.

Also, it's a bit low spreading such disinformation. It's been confirmed since ages Kronos is 1x.
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Re: Keep it clean, keep it vanilla

by Skandale » Mon Feb 16, 2015 4:47 pm

TheLockKing wrote:100% is not what anyone should try and go for. Blizzard has royally screwed up before, specially in Vanilla. What they should focus on is emulating everything Blizzard got right (even if it means nullifying changes they made to certain encounters) while fixing the small bugs that never made it out like the useless specs.



What are you even doing here if you don't believe in Vanilla as it was? Changing things makes the game unattrctive because it's not blizzlike. Despite the faults, the old blizzard dev team made an extraordinary game. The ods of accomplishing that.

If admins start changing things, it will mean subjective changes, these changes will mean that it's not a vanilla like server. A lot of servers does this, they change things, and these servers seem to lose attraction mainly because of these things.

Look at rebirth for example. They are supposed to be a 100% blizzlike server, yet, they are not, they've changed a numerous of features in the game, summoning with gathering stones, .bg join to join bg's. Cross faction global chat. All these things takes away a lot from the game, the "feel" that we got when playing vanilla like it was.

Blizzard made many good improvements to the game up to and including 1.12. Imo and a lot of people share this sentement, it's the best game ever made. And certainly the best version of wow.

If you don't believe in this then why are you here ? There are countless of servers out there who does things different than blizzard, changes features here and there, if you want that then you have options.

For us that want a 100% blizz like gaming experience, there are no options so far, which is why we want Nostalrius to be just that. Vanilla like, in every way. Majority of the players here share this sentement, they for the most part want this.
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Re: Keep it clean, keep it vanilla

by Skandale » Mon Feb 16, 2015 4:53 pm

Svalur wrote:Wow talk about a necro o.0 - Though it would be lovely if Daemon or Viper would give us an answer before 28/2 about restoring old characters :|


I believe they have, they have said they will not be restoring beta characters befor or close to launch. I've read about this in one of the posts. They've said if they are to restore beta character's, then they will do so a lot later after the server launches, and they will not do so befor asking the community first.

They also added that if they are to enable beta character's, then they are not to impact the server's balance, leveling, ecconomy or otherwice in any way.


rewind wrote:
Regnam1 wrote:if u want a lvl 55 char cuz u played on beta
then go play on Feenix al'akir .. we are here to enjoy vanilla not a freee ride


They never asked for a lvl 55 character, just for their beta character to be restored at some point.
Anyway stop bumping this topic, the question was closed by the staff so why are you people coming back with that ?



And their beta characters where able to get a free ride to level 55, and some level 60. Hence what he said.
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Re: Keep it clean, keep it vanilla

by TheLockKing » Mon Feb 16, 2015 5:14 pm

Skandale wrote:
TheLockKing wrote:100% is not what anyone should try and go for. Blizzard has royally screwed up before, specially in Vanilla. What they should focus on is emulating everything Blizzard got right (even if it means nullifying changes they made to certain encounters) while fixing the small bugs that never made it out like the useless specs.



What are you even doing here if you don't believe in Vanilla as it was? Changing things makes the game unattrctive because it's not blizzlike. Despite the faults, the old blizzard dev team made an extraordinary game. The ods of accomplishing that.

If admins start changing things, it will mean subjective changes, these changes will mean that it's not a vanilla like server. A lot of servers does this, they change things, and these servers seem to lose attraction mainly because of these things.

Look at rebirth for example. They are supposed to be a 100% blizzlike server, yet, they are not, they've changed a numerous of features in the game, summoning with gathering stones, .bg join to join bg's. Cross faction global chat. All these things takes away a lot from the game, the "feel" that we got when playing vanilla like it was.

Blizzard made many good improvements to the game up to and including 1.12. Imo and a lot of people share this sentement, it's the best game ever made. And certainly the best version of wow.

If you don't believe in this then why are you here ? There are countless of servers out there who does things different than blizzard, changes features here and there, if you want that then you have options.

For us that want a 100% blizz like gaming experience, there are no options so far, which is why we want Nostalrius to be just that. Vanilla like, in every way. Majority of the players here share this sentement, they for the most part want this.


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My god, a perfect example of a mountain out of a molehill. The mere MENTION of fixes to legitimately bugged (Not bad. BUGGED! as in not working as they were intended in retail) class abilities, and you immediately start flipping out and assuming I want to change "Precious Perfect Vanilla" into a shadow of itself with world queues and Cross Faction chat. I salute you, sir. If this isn't a pristine example of the fear-mongering nostalgia whore who can't remove the rose-tinted glasses, I don't know what is.

And to answer your question: I want to play Vanilla. IMO it was the best in every aspect save for mechanically, which (while being improved as the game went on) was mostly fixed with patch 2.0.1 thanks to the almost entire rework of the spec trees and a majority of abilities.
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