Griefing on World Bosses

[Hexmex]

Hi,
I want to know, if there will be any rules against "griefing" on world bosses This regards Raids of same Faction as well as counter Faction Raids:

e.g. Raid A gets to Kazzak, engages. Raid B joins the fight and let emself die to wipe the Raid A due to Kazzaks speacial abilities.

e.g. 2 Raid A gets to [insert any Emerald Dragon here], engages. Raid B is few ppl but wants to wipe Raid A, so warriors charge in and taunt the Dragon to breath into Raid A, which will wipe them by very high chance. Raid B continues to do that by corpserunning and rezzing to taunt again and so on...

will this be allowed, prohibited, prosecuted, w/e?

best regards
Hexmex

[Solmyr]

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Man, I sure hope it's not prosecuted. I don't want to rot in jail over a game .

[kovenant]

well, that was quite normal on vanilla.

on our realm the leaders of the big guilds that could run em had pacts.
if someone engages stay out of combat range and watch.
if they wipe its over and next guild has a go.

there were some 1 guild that didn't like it and just did their own thing at world bosses and messed everything up.
luckily even the horde agreed upon the rules of engagement. so they left alliance alone and alliance left horde alone.

except that one guild, they kinda screwed emselves over with messing with the world bosses they got ganked at every single attempt for every single boss by the horde.

[Hexmex]

well a Raid battle 40vs40 is a legit thing, but if you dont even stand a chance with 5vs40+ why would you allow that kind of griefplay to be allowed... its not that those 5 men will ever kill the worldboss...

[whitekidney]

Unless I am mistaken, it is going to be a RPPVP server (? at least PvP) which means.. PvP!
I don't think ( and hope not - let's not make this East Germany ) the Nostalrius team will classify anything like this (PvP harassment, ganking etc) as rule-breaking. Back in the days if you cried about this, you'd be told to reroll on a PvE server.

[pulser]

We should let the players decide to do what they like and let them have their own sensation of freedom and personal aspects.
Whatever happens, happens.

On the other hand. I, too, remember that one guild will do their attempt and then let the other guild try.
And that's an ideal situation.

But if someone gets tired of wiping and decides he wants to wreak havoc upon the place, (not saying that will be me at all)
He should feel free to do so without getting any account-wise punishment.

[DrunkenEnvy]

This better be allowed. I hate places like some private servers that interfere when they shouldn't and make repulsive decisions to punish people for playing the game; they don't understand that this is an old game, not 2013 generic corporate-controlled trash.

Griefing, ganking, camping, it's a part of a real multiplayer RPG, and some sort of answer involving playing the fucking game almost always certaintly exists, and GMs should never be that answer.

WoW is a pussy enough game already (for its era).

[Hatson]

Never, ever ban PvP.
Any form of World PvP. Be it ganking, corpse camping, or assaulting an opposite faction guild during world raid boss attempts - is just a part of the game. Never ever ban this.

[Drooppi]

Didn't Blizz forbid the "I'll just go die on Kazzak" thing at some point? What time that was, I dunno...

[Ghostly]

Oke, lemme set this straight. People here seem to be unable to understand the difference between worldboss pvp and worldboss griefing.

Worldboss pvp is a completely natural process. As world of boss spawn goes across, both alliance and horde assemble raids to get a shot. But knowing that as soon they attack the boss, the other faction will wipe them, they attack each other instead. That results in a massive glorious slaughter, after which the victorious faction secures the area, corpsecamps the dead enemies and engages the boss while also killing those who try to rez, regroup, and counterattack. That's the way things get done. No "waiting for other faction to wipe before engaging" bullshit, no carebear bullshit, the strongest one wins.

Worldboss griefing is completely, entrirely different. Its something you do if you know your guild/faction lacks the strength to defeat the boss, but you still want to fuck with the other faction... just because. After a long stalemate everyone but a few people left your raid and you are butthurt because the other faction is still going strong and is able to bring the boss down? Whoa, better keep ressing and taunting the boss into their raid when they pull so everyone would get breathed! What, you cant kill kazzak cause its just so hard to do when other faction has superior numbers? Better keep making lvl1 characters, summoning them to blasted lands for the boss to kill them and make the raid that engaged him mad as fuck! Cause this is just soo legit, don't you agree? And mind you, all this can easily go on for hours and hours.