why are full premades allowed to que into random groups?

[Veridian]

this isn't a matter of era accuracy, it's a matter of toxic gameplay being fixed. Letting premades farm free honor all day agains random players, ruining their experience is just stupid.

Working as intended. They didn't fix this until Wrath. Blizzlike.

having the pvp system like this is like someone restoring an old car and intentionally putting a defective part in it because it is how it originally came from the factory just so he can call it "factory original" it's stupid. It is obviously a bad system to let a raid premade all in voice chat que into random players and ruin their game. Plz fix this shit

There is no fix since it is working as intended

[Iosephus]

There is no fix since it is working as intended

Several things about the server are so far from "Blizzlike" anyways.

Talents, release times, BGs, Honor Systen, They've all been changed for conveinence and making the game enjoyable.

The beginning of the Honor system was pretty incredible pre-bgs, which not many people experienced. WSG & AB coming out so early never happened. I really do like vanilla, but I wouldn't mind changing BGs, since they were the most horribly implemented aspect of vanilla WoW.

Dodging and premades are more prevalent than retail ever was -- rarely would you actually avoid another premade 95% of the time in retail. Yeah, it happened quite a bit, but not at the private server level, since items for classes are basically BiS throughout most of the game, and a majority of people farming are there for that purpose alone.

If they forced premade v. premade a lot of people would cry about this, but they don't have much of an arguement.

[Veridian]

There is no fix since it is working as intended

Several things about the server are so far from "Blizzlike" anyways.

Talents, release times, BGs, Honor Systen, They've all been changed for conveinence and making the game enjoyable.

The beginning of the Honor system was pretty incredible pre-bgs, which not many people experienced. WSG & AB coming out so early never happened. I really do like vanilla, but I wouldn't mind changing BGs, since they were the most horribly implemented aspect of vanilla WoW.

Dodging and premades are more prevalent than retail ever was -- rarely would you actually avoid another premade 95% of the time in retail. Yeah, it happened quite a bit, but not at the private server level, since items for classes are basically BiS throughout most of the game, and a majority of people farming are there for that purpose alone.

If they forced premade v. premade a lot of people would cry about this, but they don't have much of an arguement.

Thats the main problem. If they ever make it so that premades can only get premades on queues, either they will start to trade wins or they will cry about it on the forums. They cant please both.

[Momoh]

The worst thing you can do is try to take WoW seriously as a competitive game. please don't

[Iosephus]

I don't see it as making things 'serious' but more enjoyable. Now if premades want to win trade that's on them.

[kenic]

The amount of bitching and crying on this forum is absurd. Welcome to Vanilla. People like you are the the reason retail is the way it is now. Bitch enough and loudly enough till they make the game easier and more convenient for you. Get good, kids.

[riq and snog]

Make your own premades it takes like 1 hour max to get 10 decend people on ts and que
Hardcounter their group set up assign who does what, and farm them.
It doesnt even need that much gear, just bring trinkets faps speedpots etc
Keep those guys in your friendlist an set a time on the morrow.
Not only will your chances to win increase but also u have a better experience overall.
If u like pvp prepare for it just like u prepare for a raid.
In the end its not about honor farming, its those 40 min wsgs that u loose or win 3:2 that are enjoyable
Hell u can even talk to the allys to set up the wsg clashing times.

Best wsgs always were around midnight on my old server dethecus, sometimes lasting for up to 2 hours!
learned a lot facing these guys:-)

[pakao]

The amount of bitching and crying on this forum is absurd. Welcome to Vanilla. People like you are the the reason retail is the way it is now. Bitch enough and loudly enough till they make the game easier and more convenient for you. Get good, kids.

Well said

if u dont like it here, go play wod

this is exacly how vanilla pvp looked like.

Make a premade or get steamrolled all day long. Join a raiding guild or farm 5 mans

[Iosephus]

The amount of bitching and crying on this forum is absurd. Welcome to Vanilla. People like you are the the reason retail is the way it is now. Bitch enough and loudly enough till they make the game easier and more convenient for you. Get good, kids.

Good that you agree, squirt. Premading dodging is far too easy and was one of the first of many oversights and mistakes that put WoW in its current state. Arenas just killed the game even further.

[kenic]

Good that you agree, squirt. Premading dodging is far too easy and was one of the first of many oversights and mistakes that put WoW in its current state. Arenas just killed the game even further.

Can someone translate this for me? I'm not fluent in mad.