7.5K players, do we need a second server?!

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Re: 7.5K players, do we need a second server?!

by Flaat » Thu May 21, 2015 5:22 pm

Keftenk wrote:That's the great thing when the War Effort starts :)
It'll be done in days, not weeks :D I say nay to another server unless the population starts bringing the servers down.



the problem is just that, the server is grinding down to bad performance at 7k players
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Re: 7.5K players, do we need a second server?!

by tuck3r » Thu May 21, 2015 5:23 pm

Hansger wrote:No way you would want a US server...and if there was one, no one would go to it for fear of Blizzard taking it down and people losing all their character information. While a second realm would be nice if you are constantly seeing 10k people, you would definitely need to offer free migration and cross realm bg's, but I guess I'm still in the minority and like the current population.

Your in the majority, not the minority.
Me and most people play here instead of other servers because of the amazing population.
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Re: 7.5K players, do we need a second server?!

by Hansger » Thu May 21, 2015 5:27 pm

tuck3r wrote:
Hansger wrote:No way you would want a US server...and if there was one, no one would go to it for fear of Blizzard taking it down and people losing all their character information. While a second realm would be nice if you are constantly seeing 10k people, you would definitely need to offer free migration and cross realm bg's, but I guess I'm still in the minority and like the current population.

Your in the majority, not the minority.
Me and most people play here instead of other servers because of the amazing population.


Well, I'm happy that's the case! While I'm still a low level toon, Im' having a blast in these leveling zones, plenty of people to party up with and sure you get ganked, but that was Vanilla WoW, ganked more times than I care to say but did it stop me from leveling, nope!
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Re: 7.5K players, do we need a second server?!

by Keftenk » Thu May 21, 2015 5:32 pm

Flaat wrote:
Keftenk wrote:That's the great thing when the War Effort starts :)
It'll be done in days, not weeks :D I say nay to another server unless the population starts bringing the servers down.



the problem is just that, the server is grinding down to bad performance at 7k players


Huh? I jump up roughly ~20ms more when there are that many people on. The only thing I notice with more people is less nodes. Other than that, business as usual.
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Re: 7.5K players, do we need a second server?!

by Flaat » Thu May 21, 2015 5:42 pm

Keftenk wrote:
Flaat wrote:
Keftenk wrote:That's the great thing when the War Effort starts :)
It'll be done in days, not weeks :D I say nay to another server unless the population starts bringing the servers down.



the problem is just that, the server is grinding down to bad performance at 7k players


Huh? I jump up roughly ~20ms more when there are that many people on. The only thing I notice with more people is less nodes. Other than that, business as usual.


the problem of course is not your internet lag in ms, its the server itself becoming less responsive. go send a mail from you mailbox at peak. Run around in a full city and spam abilities a bit.

Also for the people saying no we do not need a new server. At what point do you think we need a new server then?
10k?
15k?
20k? (sardines in a can)

And Ogtucker, how is a que a solution to the problem. it just makes ppl annoyed and reduces the amount of new players because yeah why should i start playing on a server with a que when there is a nilla server with low pop around as well.
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Re: 7.5K players, do we need a second server?!

by Crowley » Thu May 21, 2015 5:43 pm

I would love if when the time coes, that they would make a "normal" / "pve" server.
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Re: 7.5K players, do we need a second server?!

by tuck3r » Thu May 21, 2015 5:51 pm

@Flaat
My realm in BC always had a queue. If anything a queue would be a "good" sign. What idiot would want to leave a server with super high population to go play on some dead server? A 5-10 minute queue would not be bad at all and is 100x better solution than a second server. There is literally nothing abnormal about high/max pop servers having a queue.
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Re: 7.5K players, do we need a second server?!

by holkan » Thu May 21, 2015 5:58 pm

tuck3r wrote:@Flaat
My realm in BC always had a queue. If anything a queue would be a "good" sign. What idiot would want to leave a server with super high population to go play on some dead server? A 5-10 minute queue would not be bad at all and is 100x better solution than a second server. There is literally nothing abnormal about high/max pop servers having a queue.


I dont think you understand the purpose of a queue. A queue limits the amount of people able to login at once to prevent the server from crashing. It doesn't fix having so many people on one server that the server can no longer function properly. Here's the thing also if the server cant be stable with the amount of people on it 2 servers are necessary and if the population dwindles they can always be merged back into one server. 7k is almost 3x the population of what a vanilla server was on retail.
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Re: 7.5K players, do we need a second server?!

by tuck3r » Thu May 21, 2015 6:03 pm

holkan wrote:
tuck3r wrote:@Flaat
My realm in BC always had a queue. If anything a queue would be a "good" sign. What idiot would want to leave a server with super high population to go play on some dead server? A 5-10 minute queue would not be bad at all and is 100x better solution than a second server. There is literally nothing abnormal about high/max pop servers having a queue.


I dont think you understand the purpose of a queue. A queue limits the amount of people able to login at once to prevent the server from crashing. It doesn't fix having so many people on one server that the server can no longer function properly. Here's the thing also if the server cant be stable with the amount of people on it 2 servers are necessary and if the population dwindles they can always be merged back into one server. 7k is almost 3x the population of what a vanilla server was on retail.

I play here for the massive population along with most people here.
If you enjoy low pop servers, there are plenty out there
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Re: 7.5K players, do we need a second server?!

by Keftenk » Thu May 21, 2015 6:04 pm

Flaat wrote:
the problem of course is not your internet lag in ms, its the server itself becoming less responsive. go send a mail from you mailbox at peak. Run around in a full city and spam abilities a bit.

Also for the people saying no we do not need a new server. At what point do you think we need a new server then?
10k?
15k?
20k? (sardines in a can)

And Ogtucker, how is a que a solution to the problem. it just makes ppl annoyed and reduces the amount of new players because yeah why should i start playing on a server with a que when there is a nilla server with low pop around as well.


I haven't had spell/ability delay in a few weeks. I'm sorry you're experiencing this..
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