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Re: Best Race per Class?

by Enräge » Sun May 24, 2015 7:09 pm

riq and snog wrote:People who choose their race based on racial profit are dumb.
I never played ud, cow or troll for mains. Why?
because i like boots to be closed:-)


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Re: Best Race per Class?

by Robotron » Sun May 24, 2015 7:13 pm

riq and snog wrote:People who choose their race based on racial profit are dumb.

No, they min-max. When you played at the level I played at once race/faction change became available, you went the optimal race.
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Re: Best Race per Class?

by riq and snog » Sun May 24, 2015 9:13 pm

I dont think that min max based on racial traits is requirement in vanilla content... i remember alot of dwarfes in nax but that was 10 years ago:-)
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Re: Best Race per Class?

by Arael » Sun May 24, 2015 9:22 pm

Robotron wrote:
riq and snog wrote:People who choose their race based on racial profit are dumb.

No, they min-max. When you played at the level I played at once race/faction change became available, you went the optimal race.

Even because during the time racial skills changed a lot.

Anyway:

Horde:

Warrior: Tauren (Tank), Orc/Troll (DD), UD (PvP)
Shaman: Troll (Healer, Elemental), Orc (Enh), Tauren (PvP)
Rogue: Troll/Orc (PvE), UD (PvP)
Warlock: Balanced
Mage: Troll (PvE), UD (PvP)
Hunter: Troll (PvE), Tauren/Orc (PvP)
Priest: Troll (Healer PvE), UD (DD PvE), PvP balanced

Alliance (I have less experience on this):

Warrior: NE (Tank), Human (DD), Gnome/Dwarf (PvP)
Rogue: Balanced
Warlock: Human (PvP), Gnome (PvE)
Mage: Balanced.
Hunter: Balanced.
Paladin: Balanced.
Priest: Human (PvE), Dwarf (PvP).

Anyway, racial skills been not so important till TBC due of arena.

I think most of people played what they liked during vanilla.
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Re: Best Race per Class?

by Robotron » Sun May 24, 2015 9:54 pm

Human rogue or GTFO. Burning Crusade is certainly where racial min-maxing was at its highest, by far. In Vanilla, it's not as big, considering lots racials were straight up garbage in PVE. To use an example I'm familiar with, let's look at Horde rogues. Blood Fury is hot garbage and can't be used on fights with constant AoE damage. In current gear, rogues can die very easily on most MC fights, and MSing yourself is a bad idea most of the time. On top of this, the orc racial is an increase to base and not total attack power, and rogues can't use axes to take advantage of the racial spec. The troll haste racial is horribly bad, but at least it can be used all the time for its negligible DPS boost. There are a ton of fights in Vanilla where you get feared and MC'd, as Vanilla had less mechanics and less variety with mechanics, so the same ones got reused often, making WotF one of the best racials on fights where you would otherwise not DPS for up to 8 seconds due to a fear, like Magmadar. Honestly, it's really close, unlike later on when WotF was nerfed and Blood Fury was buffed. At that point, especially in Wrath, it was orc or go home.

And you always wanted dwarf priests. Always.
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Re: Best Race per Class?

by Rhinzual30 » Sun May 24, 2015 10:40 pm

Robotron wrote:Human rogue or GTFO. Burning Crusade is certainly where racial min-maxing was at its highest, by far. In Vanilla, it's not as big, considering lots racials were straight up garbage in PVE. To use an example I'm familiar with, let's look at Horde rogues. Blood Fury is hot garbage and can't be used on fights with constant AoE damage. In current gear, rogues can die very easily on most MC fights, and MSing yourself is a bad idea most of the time. On top of this, the orc racial is an increase to base and not total attack power, and rogues can't use axes to take advantage of the racial spec. The troll haste racial is horribly bad, but at least it can be used all the time for its negligible DPS boost. There are a ton of fights in Vanilla where you get feared and MC'd, as Vanilla had less mechanics and less variety with mechanics, so the same ones got reused often, making WotF one of the best racials on fights where you would otherwise not DPS for up to 8 seconds due to a fear, like Magmadar. Honestly, it's really close, unlike later on when WotF was nerfed and Blood Fury was buffed. At that point, especially in Wrath, it was orc or go home.

And you always wanted dwarf priests. Always.

Didn't Orcs get their attack skill racial changed to be an Expertise buff for axes/fist weapons as well?
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Re: Best Race per Class?

by Robotron » Sun May 24, 2015 10:58 pm

Blood Fury was basically an AP trinket. They just made it give more AP and removed the self-Mortal Strike effect, turning it into a straight DPS increase. Their Weapon Skill racial changed to Expertise for their racial weapons when the stat changed.
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Re: Best Race per Class?

by Rhinzual30 » Sun May 24, 2015 11:01 pm

Robotron wrote:Blood Fury was basically an AP trinket. They just made it give more AP and removed the self-Mortal Strike effect, turning it into a straight DPS increase. Their Weapon Skill racial changed to Expertise for their racial weapons when the stat changed.

No shit? They got rid of that awful self-MS effect? If there's one thing I'd love to see on Blood Fury, it would be the removal of the self-MS effect, but only if we get a server that has the appropriate expansion pack enabled on it.
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Re: Best Race per Class?

by Robotron » Sun May 24, 2015 11:07 pm

Racials were straight up fucked. TBC = go Alliance for PVE, or you're mentally handicapped. Party-wide 1% hit from draenei, human Weapon Skill, more Fear Ward for Alliance, none for Horde, etc. Orc certainly was master race for DPS in TBC and Wrath, as there were no drawbacks, WotF got nerfed a bunch of times, and there was greater mechanic variety, meaning far fewer fights with fear or MC.
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Re: Best Race per Class?

by Rhinzual30 » Mon May 25, 2015 12:34 am

Robotron wrote:Racials were straight up fucked. TBC = go Alliance for PVE, or you're mentally handicapped. Party-wide 1% hit from draenei, human Weapon Skill, more Fear Ward for Alliance, none for Horde, etc. Orc certainly was master race for DPS in TBC and Wrath, as there were no drawbacks, WotF got nerfed a bunch of times, and there was greater mechanic variety, meaning far fewer fights with fear or MC.

Sounds like of the Horde races, only Tauren and Trolls got left untouched in either form.
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