Mining Copper - Is it supposed to take this long?

[Ragstal]

Pretty sure this server has its own spawn point for herbs/ore, get the Gatherer addon rather than using ShaguQuest and Cartographer.

I will say the lack of herbs and ore is known and is due to the high population as you said. As for now we just have to deal with a lack of herbs/ore and 50g Black Lotus on the auction house.

the gather addon from here maybe? http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/gatherer

[The Shortest Path]

This should be given a high priority. I am a warrior, so mining and black smithing. I am new to the server, so no lv60s to bankroll me. Relying on the AH to find gear, or random drops or vendor trash because I can't make any decent gear because I can't gather the resources to level with is a bit ridiculous. I am a protection warrior, and I always level in the spec I am going to play, now i'm not a coder, but one would think a tank could take on 4 or 5 trash mobs and kill them (although slowly) without dying. As it is, I can barely survive 1 on 1, and half the time even that is just luck depending on how many crits or misses I get during the fight. And No, I am not a noob. I played protection warrior for 5 1/2 years in retail. I just made a half trip around elwynn forrest, got 2 copper nodes and saw NOBODY at all mining.

This is exactly how Vanilla was, to take this away would be to not make it Vanilla. This is not Wrath of the Lich King onwards with fast respawn times on resources.

I distinctly remember EPL for Thorium, it would take months to farm enough to make an item. That's what Vanilla was all about, time taken to craft or make or achieve something to give satisfaction as opposed to easy hand it to me on a platter mentality that has made WoW retail pathetic.

No, this is not exactly how Vanilla was. These are vanilla spawnrates but with more than triple the population. If supply is not adjusted according to population then there's a problem.

[Valdr]

This should be given a high priority. I am a warrior, so mining and black smithing. I am new to the server, so no lv60s to bankroll me. Relying on the AH to find gear, or random drops or vendor trash because I can't make any decent gear because I can't gather the resources to level with is a bit ridiculous. I am a protection warrior, and I always level in the spec I am going to play, now i'm not a coder, but one would think a tank could take on 4 or 5 trash mobs and kill them (although slowly) without dying. As it is, I can barely survive 1 on 1, and half the time even that is just luck depending on how many crits or misses I get during the fight. And No, I am not a noob. I played protection warrior for 5 1/2 years in retail. I just made a half trip around elwynn forrest, got 2 copper nodes and saw NOBODY at all mining.

This is exactly how Vanilla was, to take this away would be to not make it Vanilla. This is not Wrath of the Lich King onwards with fast respawn times on resources.

I distinctly remember EPL for Thorium, it would take months to farm enough to make an item. That's what Vanilla was all about, time taken to craft or make or achieve something to give satisfaction as opposed to easy hand it to me on a platter mentality that has made WoW retail pathetic.

No, this is not exactly how Vanilla was. These are vanilla spawnrates but with more than triple the population. If supply is not adjusted according to population then there's a problem.

I'm pretty sure it is adjusted for the population, you just need to come on at off-peak hours and avoid the more highly populated zones. If you are just starting off herbing or mining, don't expect an easy time leveling it in Elwynn and the surrounding areas; people make Nelfs and Dwarves and then head all the way there to level and it gets massively overpopulated.

[Ragstal]

This is a downside of having so big population which I think is not a bad thing.
You always can buy materials from AH which is good for economy since somebody invested their time to actually find and gather the stuff.

Making respawns too fast will satisfy the demand however inflate the economy to the point where leveling a profession will be pointless unless you do it for yourself.

well i agree with at a certain point but the fact that u are leveling so slow mining because of copper is too much frustrating and annoying and the fact that copper ores or bars reach almost 2G and rising to 3 is absurb...for example i find more easily tin and some other beside copper veins

and to be true with my self i dont really believe it will hurt a lot the economy if in the update they will be added more ores like copper and not just copper...the reason is i dont think ppl buy copper 2-3G

not only ppl will get motivated to mie more cause they are not gonna feel helpless about mining but also the demand will rise more for ores if ppl lower in AH the prices

and something like this it is proven indeed from many things, and it is a fact that it is better for a product to be cheap so the money can start moving non-stop cause will allow competition and give also a chance for more enchanters to plug into play either with alts or new players cause blacksmithes will be able to make more green and blue items to sell, so i thing we can help in this way the economy, cause they reason ppl rising so much the price is because it takes too much time and effort to find ores especially copper

it should be hard to find higher ores rather than getting stuck in copper and especially now that ppl reach 10k at the population.

and it suppose to see more ores in places like stone talon mountains or areas with many rocks like mulgore and we dont see either copper or other kinds and it is really strange...alltho herba needs to change in a wa too cause in mugore and ashevalley u only see green grass and not many herbs, and should be these areas rewarding because there are so many monsters to guard around plus the competition from the oposite faction (Alliance or horde)

Thorium is just fine when you know where to look and what time here.

Oh yeah, and an epic mount. :p

indeed things goes more smoothly if u have mount without a question but even so time is a problem i stayed over 1 ore to see how much time needed for it to respawn and was more than 1.30 hour
so this is an issue but something be done

it would be more enjoying while questing mining too just for the sake of learning a prof...a good way tho is to ask members of ur guild to help out if there are mining and ruturn to give some silver little by little or send back some other items they might need in return or even helping then in some questing or dungeons if u are higher than them , as for me this way worked really well this way it is for certain necessary to be in a [good] guild for such things or have good friend or clients from other guilds

[Perdition]

I created a NELF druid with mining and engineering. There are NO ore veins on Teldrassil, so I had to wait to get to Darkshore to even begin, and I've leveled it very quickly and easily. If you're having trouble finding ore in Elwynn, try going to a different area. Head over to Dark Shore, or maybe just cross into Red Ridge.

[Ravoz]

This should be given a high priority. I am a warrior, so mining and black smithing. I am new to the server, so no lv60s to bankroll me. Relying on the AH to find gear, or random drops or vendor trash because I can't make any decent gear because I can't gather the resources to level with is a bit ridiculous. I am a protection warrior, and I always level in the spec I am going to play, now i'm not a coder, but one would think a tank could take on 4 or 5 trash mobs and kill them (although slowly) without dying. As it is, I can barely survive 1 on 1, and half the time even that is just luck depending on how many crits or misses I get during the fight. And No, I am not a noob. I played protection warrior for 5 1/2 years in retail. I just made a half trip around elwynn forrest, got 2 copper nodes and saw NOBODY at all mining.

This is exactly how Vanilla was, to take this away would be to not make it Vanilla. This is not Wrath of the Lich King onwards with fast respawn times on resources.

I distinctly remember EPL for Thorium, it would take months to farm enough to make an item. That's what Vanilla was all about, time taken to craft or make or achieve something to give satisfaction as opposed to easy hand it to me on a platter mentality that has made WoW retail pathetic.

No, this is not exactly how Vanilla was. These are vanilla spawnrates but with more than triple the population. If supply is not adjusted according to population then there's a problem.

I completely agree with this. I played retail WOW at launch when everyone was questing and it was really busy. But I never had a problem being able to mine enough to craft gear for my Warrior. Yeah, I remember Thorium being pretty rare, but certainly not copper and others.

In the 3 or so weeks that I have been playing here I have only been able to mine 3 copper ore's. Three!! While questing, they simply don't exist. That is crazy. And like the other guy said, I never see anyone actively running around mining.

And this isn't in Elwynn. I level almost all of my characters in Darkshore. Ore Spawns are definitely too slow, and not at all like Retail WOW, at launch. Starting fresh and taking up Minning/Blacksmithing to create armor for your Warrior/Paladin to use while leveling is completely pointless right now.

I remember being able to mine and seeing other players mining all the time in Vanilla. Not on this server though.

[Crysthal]

are there any useful items besides the imperial set for leveling??

[Ravoz]

are there any useful items besides the imperial set for leveling??

So you are saying there is only one item set worth making in the all of the blacksmithing tree?

If so, by that logic, why take blacksmithing at all?

As a new person on the server, I have no gold. Almost all of my characters gear at low levels is of poor quality (white). I have a few greens from the early quest rewards.

Is it too much to ask, to be able to craft some mail gear? To fill in the slots that are of poor quality and maybe craft some to send to an alt?

We already know that Vanilla questing isn't a face roll and you win. And having gear that is close to your level makes a huge difference, especially for Warriors while questing. In terms of eating/downtime and survive-ability.

But all of that requires ore that can be mined, which as it is, hardly exist from what I have seen.

Really, why are we debating this? What the heck is wrong with being able to come across ore to mine??

[cascarrabias]

Everybody levels in human areas, whatever the race they are. Try checking in nelf or dwarf areas.

[Crysthal]

are there any useful items besides the imperial set for leveling??

So you are saying there is only one item set worth making in the all of the blacksmithing tree?

If so, by that logic, why take blacksmithing at all?

As a new person on the server, I have no gold. Almost all of my characters gear at low levels is of poor quality (white). I have a few greens from the early quest rewards.

Is it too much to ask, to be able to craft some mail gear? To fill in the slots that are of poor quality and maybe craft some to send to an alt?

We already know that Vanilla questing isn't a face roll and you win. And having gear that is close to your level makes a huge difference, especially for Warriors while questing. In terms of eating/downtime and survive-ability.

But all of that requires ore that can be mined, which as it is, hardly exist from what I have seen.

Really, why are we debating this? What the heck is wrong with being able to come across ore to mine??

You are right but there is no useful bs gear while leveling the usual quest rewards are better or the same. There are a few items (shining silver breastplate) that are stronger but they take a ton of time and thus are pointless.

I don't want to say I like the spawns, but that "crafting gear for leveling" part is just wrong.
Or let's say yes if you put in tons of time for farming strange materials you can have slightly better gear but it's not worth it timewise. And no leveling is not hard..