Herb respawn

[Holmes]

its one of the servers highest goals to be blizzlike and thats why blizzlike will always be a valid argument here, no matter how retarded it might appear to you.

and you seem to not get that i just got a good argument for lowering (by fixing it blizzlike) the current herbs/veins, while the OP and other whiners have what argument for highering it even more?

[Aslan]

How do you come to the conclusion that blizzlike system provides a blizzlike gameplay experience? They should aim for making the best nostalgia feeling available, so back then there werd x herbs per player = make it the same here.

[Holmes]

How do you come to the conclusion that blizzlike system provides a blizzlike gameplay experience? They should aim for making the best nostalgia feeling available, so back then there werd x herbs per player = make it the same here.

it is the same ratio here already except for black lotus

i also agree about feeling > numbers, but that would require to limit the pop to ~3k in first place
and other changes that would make it less comfortable for players, thus even more whines would occur.
and i highly doubt these requested increases have anything to do with a nostalgia feeling, escpecially since the herb/player ratio is pretty blizzlike already

tho i wonder why this thread is not deleted yet since its the 100th of its kind

[Haitharn]

They need to be increased more. There still are not enough black lotus spawns per week to provide a single HP flask for each raid tank once bwl comes out, which is completely fucking ridiculous.

Boohoo, not every guild is gonna get all the way through BWL. If your tanks need it, buy it.

[The Shortest Path]

When not every guild can even attempt BWL because of incorrect spawnrates, there's a problem.

There are over three times as many players on this server as on a high pop retail vanilla realm. If spawns are not adjusted accordingly, they are not blizzlike and they are wrong. Any argument against this is wrong.

[Youfie]

When not every guild can even attempt BWL because of incorrect spawnrates, there's a problem.

There are over three times as many players on this server as on a high pop retail vanilla realm. If spawns are not adjusted accordingly, they are not blizzlike and they are wrong. Any argument against this is wrong.

I don't think there were many Flasks before 1.7 anyway.

Patch 1.7.0 (13-Sep-2005): Black Lotus is no longer soulbound.

[The Shortest Path]

There definitely were, they were just more expensive because the people doing the farming had to also be the ones providing flask crafting and thus were in huge demand. Or guilds would get groups of people together to hunt down the nodes and then summon their herb/alchs to gather so they'd have flasks for raiding. They still did it, it just took considerably more effort since there was no separation between the farming and the producing.

The point is, all of the progression guilds found or made a way. If that no longer is possible due to supply-side restraints, that's kind of an issue.

And that's just one facet of the herb deficiency. Leveling herbalism at low levels is harder than it should be, leveling alchemy at higher levels is harder than it should be, prices for raid consumables are ludicrous.

[Retrogamer]

I'm not sure if this helps but while questing in Westfall yesterday I noticed quite a few lower level herbs spawning.

[TheGreyMouser]

I made a herbalist / alchemist and I can't even gather enough herbs to get to lv75. Not even able to supply my warrior with health potions. IMO herb nodes in any given zone should support 3 herbalists leveling. Given the number of people in westfall, loch modan, and darkshore, leveling, an increase is direly needed. Same goes for ore nodes. Skinning is no problem, since the beasts respawn and are in great enough numbers that there is no shortage.

Something else I am curious about... as a miner, i struggle to fine even 1 copper node, yet there seems to be 1 or 2 people selling 5 or more STACKS in ah. All things being equal, how is this possible?
I could understand this if I was just being beaten to the nodes, but I dont even see nodes nor anyone else actively farming them. Maybe the only way is to find 1 node and sit on top of it and wait?

[Datruth]

They need to be increased more. There still are not enough black lotus spawns per week to provide a single HP flask for each raid tank once bwl comes out, which is completely fucking ridiculous.

pls use your math skills or anything else to provide a proof that the need of black lotus is going to be higher than the actual availability

further, the black lotus BoP should be fixed and all other herbs/veins grouped as they actually should to stop their too high availability that is not blizzlike

The Black Lotus spawns are blizzlike and the server pop isn't, that's all the math you need.
Same goes for player mentality compared to 10 years ago, people are way more knowledgeable now compared to back then.
Please stop throwing that term around like a retard in attempts to reinforce your arguments, it just makes you look stupid. Private servers=/=Real retail vanilla, deal with it.
Also, I don't see you complaining about the free accounts? Everything blizzard does is in the name of profit, so free accounts is as unblizzlike as it gets.