Hit by a ninja looter, Midoriko Priest.

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Re: Hit by a ninja looter, Midoriko Priest.

by Nobel » Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:00 am

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I have been raiding since April, and I have never encountered this bug, and I have never heard of it happening to anyone else either. Sounds like someone from your guild has been dumb enough to shift-loot and then press "OK" or just used it as an excuse for ninjaing.

And to OP: Sucks for you and the other people in your raid, but there is nothing you can do about. I just hope some of you guys took pictures of it happening so you can upload it to the ninja looters thread. This is one of the rare cases where you don't seem like a crybaby for posting in that thread.


I'm not to familiar with private servers been getting whispers from people though. Apparently its not an uncommon scene. Live and learn, going to take screens of everything i guess. How would I go about reducing my exposure? If an item is reserved and it gets ninja'd can a GM rectify the issue, if so what would I need to do? If not, guess reserving means next to nothing when master loot doesn't work.

Thanks in advance for the information.
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Re: Hit by a ninja looter, Midoriko Priest.

by Ohr » Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:11 am

Easy fix: Don't reserve anything.
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Re: Hit by a ninja looter, Midoriko Priest.

by Datruth » Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:50 am

Nobel wrote:
Datruth wrote:
I have been raiding since April, and I have never encountered this bug, and I have never heard of it happening to anyone else either. Sounds like someone from your guild has been dumb enough to shift-loot and then press "OK" or just used it as an excuse for ninjaing.

And to OP: Sucks for you and the other people in your raid, but there is nothing you can do about. I just hope some of you guys took pictures of it happening so you can upload it to the ninja looters thread. This is one of the rare cases where you don't seem like a crybaby for posting in that thread.


I'm not to familiar with private servers been getting whispers from people though. Apparently its not an uncommon scene. Live and learn, going to take screens of everything i guess. How would I go about reducing my exposure? If an item is reserved and it gets ninja'd can a GM rectify the issue, if so what would I need to do? If not, guess reserving means next to nothing when master loot doesn't work.

Thanks in advance for the information.


Master Looting does work, just not when it comes to chests - a great example being the majordomo chest.

Not everyone is gonna agree with all of the stuff I am about to say, but from my experience, this is how most people feel about the following topics:

Ninja looting: If this happens to you in a dungeon on regular blues, the people in your group will most likely sympathize with you, but if you post about it on the forums people will most likely label you as a crybaby and forget about the ninja since the community is so big and their identity is therefore easily forgotten in the masses. However, when it comes to raid boss loot like what happened to you guys at majordomo I advice you to take a screenshot of it if you ever get so unlucky to experience a situation like that again. I'm sure none of the respectable guilds wants that kind of players in their guild.
BTW don't even bother writing a ticket to GMs about this issue, If they did handle cases of ninja looting they would simply be flooded with extra work, which to be fair could easily have been avoided in 9/10 cases.

Reserving: People generally dislike when people reserve stuff, so even if you manage to get everyone to accept the fact that you have an item reserved, always make sure to put on Master Loot.
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Re: Hit by a ninja looter, Midoriko Priest.

by Nobel » Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:58 am

So even in 40 mans a ninja is allowed via server admins? A screen shoot will only give me support to put him on a ninja loot server list? Which may mean nothing if people dont read yeah, or dont consider it truthful.

Dang.
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Re: Hit by a ninja looter, Midoriko Priest.

by Ohr » Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:13 am

There are thousands of people playing. There are few GMs. If they accepted such petty issues there would be a never ending que of tickets that they would never be able to finish going through.

They don't have paid employees working in an office nine-to-five to cater to the same issues that Blizzard used to cater to. There simply is not enough manpower for it. Let alone, servers were 2,5k pop max and were split into separate regions (US/EU/ETC) in vanilla. We're running 5-7k online 24/7 and a server like this would require 4-6 times more support staff to run it as smoothly as Blizzard did back in the day.


TL;DR :
Nobel wrote:Dang.
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Re: Hit by a ninja looter, Midoriko Priest.

by Datruth » Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:18 am

Nobel wrote:So even in 40 mans a ninja is allowed via server admins? A screen shoot will only give me support to put him on a ninja loot server list? Which may mean nothing if people dont read yeah, or dont consider it truthful.

Dang.


I have only heard of people reporting ninjas in dungeons, and I know for sure that never works out, for the reasons Ohr just stated.
I haven't heard anything when it comes to majordomo loot though, since what happened to you guys is such a rare case, without being a 100% sure, I'm still pretty confident that they will turn down any report of this kind, especially if you don't have a picture or any proof of the incident.

If you want his actions to have any sort of consequences besides forum shaming, I'd say you should try to contact his guild leader and tell him how much of a shitter he is, if it's a decent guild I'm sure they will take distance to this guys actions, and if they don't, they are probably trash and being in a trash guild is a punishment in itself. :P
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Re: Hit by a ninja looter, Midoriko Priest.

by CMCAT » Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:39 am

Datruth wrote:
CMCAT wrote:On this server there is a big if you click on boss sometimes you loot 1-3 items from him even without accepting happend to our guild twice and its been on bug tracker forever


I have been raiding since April, and I have never encountered this bug, and I have never heard of it happening to anyone else either. Sounds like someone from your guild has been dumb enough to shift-loot and then press "OK" or just used it as an excuse for ninjaing.

And to OP: Sucks for you and the other people in your raid, but there is nothing you can do about. I just hope some of you guys took pictures of it happening so you can upload it to the ninja looters thread. This is one of the rare cases where you don't seem like a crybaby for posting in that thread.



Well its rare .. there was even a video posted on the forum earlier from another guild that had the same problem were a shaman looted t2 warrior legs and warlock legs with this bugg
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Re: Hit by a ninja looter, Midoriko Priest.

by Nobel » Tue Sep 01, 2015 10:11 am

Great information guys, thank you. Got a lot out of this. Cheers.
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Re: Hit by a ninja looter, Midoriko Priest.

by dusky » Tue Sep 01, 2015 10:43 am

how to avoid this situation right here - dont join puggs.
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Re: Hit by a ninja looter, Midoriko Priest.

by Nobel » Tue Sep 01, 2015 11:31 am

dusky wrote:how to avoid this situation right here - dont join puggs.



Though I appreciate your insight its not a pug that's the problem. Its the chest can be looted by anyone.
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