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Re: You know what would be nice?

by Bioness » Mon Sep 14, 2015 1:03 am

Norjak wrote:
Bioness wrote:I understand what you are trying to say, but you are making a baseless claims.

Unless someone can prove they can do it here, it's not a "baseless claim".
That's another LK video, btw.


I know it is a Wrath of the Lich King video, I was using it so others would see what you were talking about regarding mounts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosoph ... n_of_proof

You should read these.
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Re: You know what would be nice?

by tobor » Mon Sep 14, 2015 1:17 am

This is something I've thought about too, a server offering custom, lore-friendly content, a diverging timeline of sorts. Not on the likes of Nostalrius of course, where the mission is to specifically emulate the game as it was on the official servers.

There were always plenty of ways to do things differently. Night elves being an independent nation, having high elves on Alliance (although their numbers and lack of zones are a problem), ogres, Stonemaul or otherwise on Horde, a third faction consisting of Illidan and Kael's forces on Outland (which would be a third continent instead of a replacement for the old two), etc., etc. Along with gameplay changes. Giving Paladins Strikes back, implementing some of the gutted Skill functionality like learning languages, and some planned PvP features like DKs from killing low level players, outlaw status and City Protector rank, etc.. It's all just daydreaming really, I don't know how feasible it actually is to develop new content for private servers or if there's interest for such a thing.
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Re: You know what would be nice?

by konked » Mon Sep 14, 2015 1:18 am

Custom servers have been around but they all fail sooner or later.
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Re: You know what would be nice?

by Norjak » Mon Sep 14, 2015 1:38 am

Bioness wrote:I know it is a Wrath of the Lich King video, I was using it so others would see what you were talking about regarding mounts.

Not from Nost, so completely irrelevant.
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Re: You know what would be nice?

by Bioness » Mon Sep 14, 2015 1:52 am

Norjak wrote:
Bioness wrote:I know it is a Wrath of the Lich King video, I was using it so others would see what you were talking about regarding mounts.

Not from Nost, so completely irrelevant.


That is some nice selective quoting you have, it is almost as if you intentional don't quote material that you can't defend against.

As for your Nost comment.

https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic. ... 1&start=10

Daemon wrote:The 1.12 client had some glitches that allow players to reach some specific areas using wall jumping technics. Since these glitches are "Blizzlike", they cannot be considered as bug, and will be allowed on Nostalrius.
However, if someone abuses of it to get an advantage in battlegrounds for example, he may receive a warning, and appropriate sanctions may apply in the case of a repetition of the same offence.
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Re: You know what would be nice?

by Setup » Mon Sep 14, 2015 2:43 am

OP, I've had similar thoughts, especially pertaining to TBC servers and the underground area behind Karazhan.

It looks like there's enough assets to string together some creative unique content, but I can't imagine any private servers actually developing it.
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Re: You know what would be nice?

by Proctologist » Mon Sep 14, 2015 3:38 am

I've been to GM island, outland test zone in deadmines, emerald dream(with mpq file, you basically just copy+paste it into ur data folder then u enter either scholo, ZF or Sfk to enter Emerald Dream and you basically get world ported to the emerald dream map ID which doesn't exist in the kalimor or eastern kingdom map ID) and a few other things.

Idk how ppl get to developer island or old hellfire peninsula, never seen azshara crater, only on really old blizz pics like the ones posted.

Realmplayers.com/CharacterViewer.aspx?realm=NRB&player=Procto
Realmplayers.com/CharacterViewer.aspx?realm=NRB&player=Missbunbun


Let's get one thing straight... I'm not.

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Re: You know what would be nice?

by Bioness » Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:46 am

Proctologist wrote:I've been to GM island, outland test zone in deadmines, emerald dream(with mpq file, you basically just copy+paste it into ur data folder then u enter either scholo, ZF or Sfk to enter Emerald Dream and you basically get world ported to the emerald dream map ID which doesn't exist in the kalimor or eastern kingdom map ID) and a few other things.

Idk how ppl get to developer island or old hellfire peninsula, never seen azshara crater, only on really old blizz pics like the ones posted.


That is actually quite clever.

For those interested in Azshara Crater and the Emerald Dream, here are what the zones look like (you can mute the music if you want).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7FqxEosO3k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0MlBEmM-io

GM Island is apparently used by the GMs of Nostalrius, I guess they have to have fun somehow.
http://i.imgur.com/g9lMiPn.jpg?1


I'm not against the idea of fleshing these zones out in principle, but for practical reason I fail to see it ever working and catching on.
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Re: You know what would be nice?

by Shmooglavoue » Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:54 am

There's a reason why these zones were not completed. While they do have the basic landscapes for the areas, to develop actual content takes a lot of work if you're not just using pre-established assets (in which case what's the point?).

You'd have to create new NPC's, mobs, bosses, questlines, and rewards, all of which take time to create that is likely beyond the current Nostalrius crew's ability or interest. Not to mention the balancing issues raised by including things like that. I say it's more important to focus on the current issues with the Nos server, and make sure things are working.
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Re: You know what would be nice?

by Arucado » Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:58 am

tobor wrote:This is something I've thought about too, a server offering custom, lore-friendly content, a diverging timeline of sorts. Not on the likes of Nostalrius of course, where the mission is to specifically emulate the game as it was on the official servers.

There were always plenty of ways to do things differently. Night elves being an independent nation, having high elves on Alliance (although their numbers and lack of zones are a problem), ogres, Stonemaul or otherwise on Horde, a third faction consisting of Illidan and Kael's forces on Outland (which would be a third continent instead of a replacement for the old two), etc., etc. Along with gameplay changes. Giving Paladins Strikes back, implementing some of the gutted Skill functionality like learning languages, and some planned PvP features like DKs from killing low level players, outlaw status and City Protector rank, etc.. It's all just daydreaming really, I don't know how feasible it actually is to develop new content for private servers or if there's interest for such a thing.


Something like this. Unfortunately, it's something will never happen, because there isn't any private classic server interested in this.

But i wish some like that ever happened, it's sad to see how many things blizzard could have done, instead continue the game in the line it went.

Classic ended in 1.12, i just wished it would have ended long later

PD: To get to these zones you just need your own emulator (easy to find) and type .worldport commands. For example caverns of time was already done in vanilla, even the Black Morass dungeon was completed.
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