LazyPig, Infinite Scrolling, tradeDispenser, and more...

[Vanillerific]

So wait...today using TradeDispenser is not bannable? It was clearly the focal point of the reason that I was banned.

https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic. ... 10#p163019

[slipry]

does tradedispenser spam the chat and summon the water and accept the trade all without any player input at all? pretty sure u were using ahk or something to spam/summon the water

u didnt get banned for using the addon bro

[stimz]

Okay, so that precedent that guy defending all the AH snipe bots was worried about has been set. I'm happy.

[Vanillerific]

does tradedispenser spam the chat and summon the water and accept the trade all without any player input at all? pretty sure u were using ahk or something to spam/summon the water

u didnt get banned for using the addon bro

If anything these last 2 days have shown me how stupid the majority of you are. You all post here with your assumptions without taking 5 seconds to even read anything that is posted. TradeDispenser DOES spam chat, accept the trade, place in the proper items, and complete the trade ALL VIA AN ADDON. It does not summon water. When you conjure 900 water it tends to last for awhile. There is nothing to automate other than what the addon already does. Bro.

[zerf]

Typically GMs teleport suspects to jail box to see what how they interact. I wonder If you got teleported too and did GM that ban you actually knew how that addon works, since in order to check if you were using 3rd party software one would need to wait at least (5?) minutes to see if you get AFK flagged or jump/cast any spells without noticing change in surroundings. Simply teleporting and checking for autotrade / broadcast messages is not enough.

On other hand, 900 water is not that much (45 stacks) and sitting all day, pressing one button is rather weird. Mind telling approximate time your character was doing this stuff (like 5h / day)? Permaban seems a bit over the top though.

[Vanillerific]

Typically GMs teleport suspects to jail box to see what how they interact. I wonder If you got teleported too and did GM that ban you actually knew how that addon works, since in order to check if you were using 3rd party software one would need to wait at least (5?) minutes to see if you get AFK flagged or jump/cast any spells without noticing change in surroundings. Simply teleporting and checking for autotrade / broadcast messages is not enough.

On other hand, 900 water is not that much (45 stacks) and sitting all day, pressing one button is rather weird. Mind telling approximate time your character was doing this stuff (like 5h / day)? Permaban seems a bit over the top though.

I was never once teleported anywhere. The GMs should know how the addon works. I linked it multiple times. It's obvious though by the way they have described things that they're completely oblivious. I tried to keep myself from going AFK, although there are plenty of times that I did. There were also multiple times that I AFK'd completely offline for more than 15 minutes because all of my water despawned (pretty annoying to remake). Add to that the server kept crashing the week before and so I was obviously present because I had to keep logging back on every 5 minutes when it crashed.

Depending on the time of day 900 water could last quite awhile. However during NA or EU primetime I made sure to conjure a few stacks everytime I made any movement to keep from going AFK. Add to that talking to people non stop, making different levels of water for lowbies, regularly saying thank you to those who tipped, and emoting to friends who were nearby...I'm one pretty amazing bot.

As far as how long I was doing this stuff per day it was probably sporadic during a 10-12 or so hour period (could be a little more or less). I log on in the morning and run it during the day while I work on my other monitor, usually actively chatting if guildies were online. When I was done with work for the day and a few particular friends came on I'd stop and go run a 5 man (lately Strat UD) Then either run something else or return to the bridge and continue while chatting until I logged and went to sleep. Throughout this whole process I was keeping an eye on chat as often as I could so I could catch people needing to buy the UBRS key. I probably opened UBRS 3-4 times a day.

Add to all this the unfair commentary in my account issues thread by one banned AH sniper "yadungoofed" who was the one that made a ticket in the first place after I told his new level 5 dwarf AH sniper that I wasn't sharing the name of the addon (because he was being an ass) and /ignored him. Who by the way is still regularly botting on his level 5 dwarf in IF whose name is "Unreadable" spelled out in special characters for the sole reason of making him hard to report. The funny thing is that he will get this level 5 banned again and just create a new one...rinse and repeat but his main will remain untouched. If the staff would like his name they can find it on my ignore list.

Then there was also "NOanswerfrommod" who had also just been banned, and 2 regular trolls. Nothing about the thread was fair. It was full of misinformation and people who had no clue what they were talking about. The 2 posts where Viper contradicts himself are just further evidence of that. No one even bothered to read the link describing the addon in question.

So ya I agree...permaban was over the top. But it is what it is.

[Datruth]

How do you manage to come to all kinds of conclusions when his response only consisted of around 20 words? Instead of assuming the worst like you guys, I'm sure what he meant by automation that continues when you aren't at your computer was anti afk addons(or is it bots?) and such. If people would get bans for Auto resurrect accept etc chances are you would have seen a lot more people get banned in the last 7 months.

Stop letting crybabies like Vanillerific fool you into thinking common addons are bannable.
Just look at his signature:
"RIP Vanillerific. Banned for using TradeDispenser to give food/water to the people of Ironforge. What 3rd party software was in use? I was banned to save face. I was not the first, and I will not be the last."
Playing the victim card to the absolute fullest.

[Norjak]

This thread will be fun to watch sins (sic) 90% of all addons was (sic) created for automation purpes (sic) and by that gms respons (sic) it seems they wont alow (sic) any of those addons.

This. It seems they don't care whether it's an add-on script function or 3rd party .exe, as long as it's capable of performing actions while you're off taking a piss they could ban u for it...

[umandez]

Oh shit...

I've really gotta stop hitting numlock and going off to make a cup of tea No tea for me i guess..

[Proctologist]

Using an add on that assists in a normal game way is fine, such as an addon that copies the item name when it is shift-click. Or perhaps clicking an item to trade it rather than drag and drop. Or using decursive to target for you. All these instances are accepted me fair to use. Using 3rd party software or knowingly exploiting to gain unfair advantage will bring judgement.

This ban was applied because the player used 3rd party software to gain unfair advantage. That is what was meant by automation. The staff on Nostalrius will only ban people who knowingly break and continue to break the rules. If you have questions, you can ask the GMs. Hopefully this clears up any remaining confusion.

Explain how a little gnome 60 mage in Ironforge using TradeDispenser giving out food and water to people trading him is unfair advantage..

By what you've written, none using TradeDispenser should be banned..
Do none of you GMs talk to each other? Why does GMs have to say hold on every time u talk to them to check ToS if something is allowed? Or
-''Hold on, let me check with a senior GM''
You get the feeling most is based upon feelings and mood, and not a ToS,
These players weren't even warned, instead instantly banned.

Ban for using multihacks and actuall BOT programs that walk, kill, and completely interact FOR you, but a simple sequence once triggered, that rly doesn't do anything useful or advantageous for you...

I'm lost for words rly

It doesn't affect me but your GMs banning people for using Lazypig and Tradedispenser is just mindboggling.