wich faction is better for pvp, bgs and wpvp?

[varth]

Alliance is absolutely better for PvP. Shaman are gimped paladins and anyone who thinks paladins are weak "offensive" support healers are retarded. Paladins keep their DPS completely free of all CC so that they can destroy the other team. Shaman are no where near as effective at this.

As far as racials, everyone underestimates stoneform, escape artist, perception, shadowmeld, and the priest racials fear ward and desperate prayer. Horde has some great PvP racials, but Alliance racials are easily on par.

Alliance on Nostalrius also has the benefit of having signficantly more healers than Horde has. Most BGs horde has zero healers, one if they are lucky, while Alliance usually has 3 or more.

How Alliance doesn't have a 90% win/loss ratio for pugs is a mystery.

I will agree with you about paladins, but if you think alliance racials are on par with horde for pvp you are delusional. Every horde race but troll has a stronger pvp racial than any alliance race.

aoe 2 second stun that can be used while stunned and +5% hp including items
25% stun resist, AP steroid
WOTF is imba as hell, cannibalize is effectively a second bandage, 10 shadow resist is good as well

If the gnome escape artist was instant cast it would imo be better than orc, but that 1 second really hurts.

[Odomiah]

Mature or not, horde still dominates the world map.

For bgs from 10 to 39 lvls I lost ONCE. We won every single bg... even their twinked out teams couldn't get their ways right and often ran mindlessly while "immature" horde guys won using simple thing as "strategy".

I'm more than certain that its pretty much the same on 60.

[varth]

You only need to look to the largest BG to see the weaknesses in alliance strategy.

Alliance constantly complains about losing AV constantly, when they won't even do the most simple (and effective) thing when you are losing. COPY THE WINNER

Horde (at least during av weekend) ALWAYS rushes the bunker, then SH gy, then the 2nd bunker, while ignoring balinda every single game. If bd isn't defended (it takes 1-2 mages and a healer to stop BD) we go there, if not we go SP, cap that then aid.

Alliance ALWAYS rush the neutral troll gy (not IB GY) then they go Galv (instead of skipping), and THEN they go for towers and IB GY.

So alliance wastes 15+ minutes EVERY SINGLE GAME doing unnecessary stupid crap, and then cry all over the forums about how its imbalanced. The only thing that's imbalanced is how stupid the alliance strategy is.

[toolshed]

You only need to look to the largest BG to see the weaknesses in alliance strategy.

Alliance constantly complains about losing AV constantly, when they won't even do the most simple (and effective) thing when you are losing. COPY THE WINNER

Horde (at least during av weekend) ALWAYS rushes the bunker, then SH gy, then the 2nd bunker, while ignoring balinda every single game. If bd isn't defended (it takes 1-2 mages and a healer to stop BD) we go there, if not we go SP, cap that then aid.

Alliance ALWAYS rush the neutral troll gy (not IB GY) then they go Galv (instead of skipping), and THEN they go for towers and IB GY.

So alliance wastes 15+ minutes EVERY SINGLE GAME doing unnecessary stupid crap, and then cry all over the forums about how its imbalanced. The only thing that's imbalanced is how stupid the alliance strategy is.

I agree that IBGY is the best first target for AV, but the alliance problems in WSG and AB don't have anything to do with that.

Like someone else said - there will be 7-8 players at stables in AB, and someone will just come up and cap it straight up. People AFK a lot and generally don't want to play if we lose the first BS battle. The worst part is that the chain losing causes people to start flaming each other, and there is a really small chance of winning after that happens.

If alliance would actually FIGHT we could win. The problem is that alliance have allowed horde to chain-win so many BGs, that they all have maxed rep gear. Normally on retail vanilla, Alliance would have better pve guilds so they would be on-par. Horde outgears and outplays alliance 95% of the time in PUG BGs

[Muhsogyny]

Alliance is absolutely better for PvP. Shaman are gimped paladins and anyone who thinks paladins are weak "offensive" support healers are retarded. Paladins keep their DPS completely free of all CC so that they can destroy the other team. Shaman are no where near as effective at this.

As far as racials, everyone underestimates stoneform, escape artist, perception, shadowmeld, and the priest racials fear ward and desperate prayer. Horde has some great PvP racials, but Alliance racials are easily on par.

Alliance on Nostalrius also has the benefit of having signficantly more healers than Horde has. Most BGs horde has zero healers, one if they are lucky, while Alliance usually has 3 or more.

How Alliance doesn't have a 90% win/loss ratio for pugs is a mystery.

I will agree with you about paladins, but if you think alliance racials are on par with horde for pvp you are delusional. Every horde race but troll has a stronger pvp racial than any alliance race.

aoe 2 second stun that can be used while stunned and +5% hp including items
25% stun resist, AP steroid
WOTF is imba as hell, cannibalize is effectively a second bandage, 10 shadow resist is good as well

If the gnome escape artist was instant cast it would imo be better than orc, but that 1 second really hurts.

Warstomp cannot be used while stunned, the attack power bonus orc racial only applies to "base" melee attack power, so it doesn't even increase that much while applying a 25 second self-inflicted mortal strike (anyone who uses it in anything other than solo pvp and isn't able to bandage is an idiot basically)

[Halcyon702]

I always wondered why Alliance here kills Galv, maybe honor and rep because they think they won't win?

Ally can skip everything on the way to horde base and jump the fence, ride safely passed all mobs in the horde base then take east and west towers, decoy pull relief hut and gg in ten minutes.