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Re: Horde Vs Alliance PvP

by mozibake » Sun Jan 10, 2016 5:15 am

bubbles don't purged

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Re: Horde Vs Alliance PvP

by mozibake » Sun Jan 10, 2016 5:20 am

Thatoneguy wrote:
mozibake wrote:PS WoTF being overpowered is a meme, there are already so many fear breaks and so few classes that actually utilize fear that it's a non-factor in 90% of fights.


Because in 90% of the fights there are no Priests, Warriors or Warlocks present?

WoTF is OP in PvP, if I could roll an UD Shaman I would reroll instantly.


I made a much more detailed post on the subject at viewtopic.php?f=46&t=29232&p=209261#p209261.

+ Why are you worried about fear as a shaman? Is there a reason you aren't just keeping tremor totem down at all times in PvP?
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Re: Horde Vs Alliance PvP

by Halcyon702 » Sun Jan 10, 2016 8:00 am

I don't think people know what can and cannot be purged tbh, see alliance priests using offensive dispel all the time though
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Re: Horde Vs Alliance PvP

by Thatoneguy » Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:13 am

mozibake wrote:Why are you worried about fear as a shaman? Is there a reason you aren't just keeping tremor totem down at all times in PvP?


It isn't as simple as that. When you place Tremor Totem it pulses immediately and then it takes 3 seconds to pulse again. Often your opponent is smart enough to destroy the totem within these 3 seconds. Having Tremor Totem down 'at all times' puts you in a losing position where you're trading GCDs for their auto/wand attack that could've been used to be offensive.

But there's more too it, they will also be running away from you, each time you use Tremor Totem you're not using your GCD on something useful. Even when you're succesful, when you do catch a fear there's a good chance that you're running out of the Tremor Totem's range.

If I had WoTF I wouldn't have to waste about 10 GCDs per fight (that's 15 seconds of doing basically nothing except for auto attacking) just to be prepared for that one instant fear. When you do catch a fear you're in a very bad position.

The worst part of it all is that this plays out when you know that there's a chance you're going to get feared. Just by virtue of having a Fear ability a Shaman is required to waste quite a bit of GCDs. All this trouble and more when you´re expecting a Fear, but what about the situations where you catch an accidental fear? You're screwed.

Just from that one sentence you wrote every Shaman can tell that you don't understand the class. You don't have to worry about my expertise because I've played Undead as various classes throughout Vanilla, TBC and WoTLK. I know how incredible the racial is because it allows you to play much more offensive. The difference between having and not having WoTF is that without it you're playing on a constant defense but with it you can play offensive at all times.
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Re: Horde Vs Alliance PvP

by Muhsogyny » Sun Jan 10, 2016 1:36 pm

Thatoneguy wrote:
mozibake wrote:Why are you worried about fear as a shaman? Is there a reason you aren't just keeping tremor totem down at all times in PvP?


It isn't as simple as that. When you place Tremor Totem it pulses immediately and then it takes 3 seconds to pulse again. Often your opponent is smart enough to destroy the totem within these 3 seconds. Having Tremor Totem down 'at all times' puts you in a losing position where you're trading GCDs for their auto/wand attack that could've been used to be offensive.

But there's more too it, they will also be running away from you, each time you use Tremor Totem you're not using your GCD on something useful. Even when you're succesful, when you do catch a fear there's a good chance that you're running out of the Tremor Totem's range.

If I had WoTF I wouldn't have to waste about 10 GCDs per fight (that's 15 seconds of doing basically nothing except for auto attacking) just to be prepared for that one instant fear. When you do catch a fear you're in a very bad position.

The worst part of it all is that this plays out when you know that there's a chance you're going to get feared. Just by virtue of having a Fear ability a Shaman is required to waste quite a bit of GCDs. All this trouble and more when you´re expecting a Fear, but what about the situations where you catch an accidental fear? You're screwed.

Just from that one sentence you wrote every Shaman can tell that you don't understand the class. You don't have to worry about my expertise because I've played Undead as various classes throughout Vanilla, TBC and WoTLK. I know how incredible the racial is because it allows you to play much more offensive. The difference between having and not having WoTF is that without it you're playing on a constant defense but with it you can play offensive at all times.


Why are you auto attacking as a shaman?

But yeah, shaman are garbage, especially compared to paladins.
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Re: Horde Vs Alliance PvP

by Thatoneguy » Sun Jan 10, 2016 1:49 pm

Muhsogyny wrote:Why are you auto attacking as a shaman?


That's classified 8-)
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Re: Horde Vs Alliance PvP

by mozibake » Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:21 am

Muhsogyny wrote:Why are you auto attacking as a shaman?

But yeah, shaman are garbage, especially compared to paladins.


He bought in to the enhancement meme.
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Re: Horde Vs Alliance PvP

by Thatoneguy » Mon Jan 11, 2016 9:52 am

mozibake wrote:
Muhsogyny wrote:Why are you auto attacking as a shaman?

But yeah, shaman are garbage, especially compared to paladins.


He bought in to the enhancement meme.


Nope, I'm not enhancement.

I also see that you have nothing to say about WoTF, it's to be expected though seeing that you know absolutely nothing about Shamans to begin with.
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Re: Horde Vs Alliance PvP

by mozibake » Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:21 am

What is it that you want me to say back? Your entire post is "I drop all my totems right next to rogues and then am surprised when they don't last long, btw ur bad". Maybe try having some situational awareness and positioning yourself better so that the initial pulse breaks what it needs to.
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Re: Horde Vs Alliance PvP

by Thatoneguy » Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:00 pm

mozibake wrote:What is it that you want me to say back?


Something with a little more substance. Which I now realize was a mistake on my part because you have no experience at all.
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