The Night the Lightwell Went Dry

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Re: The Night the Lightwell Went Dry

by Botanist » Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:49 am

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Re: The Night the Lightwell Went Dry

by crazywillie » Mon Jan 25, 2016 8:47 am

i dunno what took these people so long to take the leap. she only stole 90% of the guild bank and treated her people like crap. i love the stories of how she manipulated people. glad i left when i did and stopped putting up with her bulcrap.

love the face that she tribbed with her guildies to keep them in guild. good job
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Re: The Night the Lightwell Went Dry

by Talzia » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:38 am

Which lie are you trying to feed people?

Was guild bank empty or did I steal 90% of it? Isn't 90% of nothing... nothing?

The guild bank wasn't 'drained' by me thats for sure, it simply really never bulked up. I'm not very good at reselling or selling things, and most of that was handled by another officer. Donations were far and few between and most of what was contributed to the bank was stuff gathered from raids or several flask mats donations from people who are either not in the guild anymore but also not in Echo, who have quit the server, or are not with Echo. Guild bank was stolen about a year ago, so obviously giving out access was a concern after that point. Those titans flask materials were requested when we were having BWL troubles, and obviously those are long since drank by tanks.

I made sure that the people who were supposed to get craftables got them even though they had left Axiom. I'm also so incredibly unreasonable that I refunded one of the primary instigators TS donations because I felt someone shouldn't pay for a month of TS they aren't using, and that I encouraged people to feel OK about joining Echo who were holding off leaving because they didn't like the shady way in which this was all done. Oh, yes and I posted in the FB group that no one should feel bad who is joining because they want to raid because they aren't the ones who made the decision.

As far as the (hilarious) accusations of a biased loot council, our loot council had nothing to do with my, or anyones personal preferences and ran fairly even according to several of the people who hated me, including Bow. We had a good checks and balances system in place and things went to the correct places.

As far as how I feel, of course I feel it is unfortunate that things turned out this way but people are adults and they can do what they want. I never cared about trying to make people like me and I still don't, that isn't why I play world of warcraft. I only ever wanted us to be a successful guild and to do well raiding, it was my one goal and I put all of my time and effort into that beyond what a drama-chasing forum troll like yourself would even be able to grasp. It is a guild I built by handing out 8 slot bags in Teldrassil at server release, and while it meant a lot to me and is something I believed in and fought for, in the end it is only a guild in a game on the internet. I made some genuine lifelong friends and that is what I care about since it is all said and done. None of your accusations about me being a whore or a bitch have any meaning to me, and I hardly plan on taking over anyone elses guild although I do still intend to raid and play with the people I am closest to. As you say, I haven't any drama or 'rumors' to offer you anymore, so it's time to move on.

PS: I still love lightwell.
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Re: The Night the Lightwell Went Dry

by crazywillie » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:42 pm

Lets address this one by one.

--Apparently, both. It was empty because you stole 90% of it. how does a guild bank sit empty week by week when every boe from mc is put into it for 9 months? where does the money from those boe sales go when the guild bank hands out a tank flask per week? where did the ingots go that the guild got?

--The guild bank was bulked up. slayde put A TON of gold into it and other people gave alot of mats for consumes. 3 or 4 people apparently put countless hours into farming about 20 sets of bloodvine. So since it was being funneled gold and mats, where did the gold from boe sales and ingots go?

SIDENOTE: as for the guild bank being stolen way back when: The guild bank was given back when the guild split last year, and only what was taken in the first place was what the officers who left farmed. you just centered on that story to give yourself reason to monopolize its control. you also just wanted to slam and slander those people to further your agenda and make them look bad. bad person.

good checks and balances on loot council? is that why i heard you gave OVERRULED the loot council a month ago and gave a lootlocked person a piece of loot because you liked them? i heard the entire council was voting to give it to someone actually worthy of getting a BiS piece, and you overruled and gave some heartfelt speech about how someone had been in the guild since day 1 and deserved it despite being loot locked. Said person left after raid. Good raid leading talzia. Probably another person you tribbed w/

PS: Youre still the back stabbing liar drama queen you always were and have fun dragging people over to your next guild
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Re: The Night the Lightwell Went Dry

by Halcyon702 » Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:04 pm

I am so surprise
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Re: The Night the Lightwell Went Dry

by Talzia » Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:54 pm

We have 1 ingot in the bank, 2 were sold to Talesavo, 1 to Slayde for hammer creation abilities (A long ass time ago, Tales has had his hammer for how many months? We never had an eye drop).

Slayde never gave even 1 copper to guildbank, he gave gold and items to people directly and of his own free will - he was never less than generous and I am sure it was appreciated but it had nothing to do with guild bank. In the entire history of Axiom the only person who ever sent gold to guildbank was Viridian (anyone remember him?).

We were blowing through 500g of black lotus per week for months there flasking 4-6 tanks, so it isn't much of a mystery where the gold from previous and current T1 sales went during those months, and the donations people made was mostly in the form of gromsblood/stonescale which were consumed to make a small portion of those flasks. We had to buy Gromsblood frequently from AH. The mats that weren't consumed were donated by Conet and mailed back to him (stonescale oils). Since we started clearing better we stopped flasking, which was fairly recent - and we were in the process of figuring out how to stockpile for AQ40.

As far as the loot locked individual, that person had been promised a piece of loot (because he was the only DPS warrior that still needed it) since the piece of loot had been placed on the loot table in MC months ago, and not by me. I actually don't believe in promising loot, but a promise from an officer is a promise from the guild, and standing by it was the right thing to do. No one else needed that except another person who decided last minute that they needed it for threat gear as a tank. That decision was made with integrity and I stand by it. I did explain why it had been promised to him historically, I am not sure I would call it heartfelt, lol.

Anyways I am sure you will return with more fantastical accusations and lies, so you can publically justify your anonymous hatred and obsession with me. I hope you are getting it all out now as we have established that you will have to move on to some other target for your drama-mongering, and wish you the best of luck with your life, whoever you are.

I honestly CBA to post in this thread anymore, so anyone who is reading this that has actual questions can just message me and I will leave this one to whiney mcgee over here for his long awaited monologue that begins with "I heard".
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Re: The Night the Lightwell Went Dry

by Fuhrern » Mon Jan 25, 2016 6:15 pm

its just a game ;_;
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Re: The Night the Lightwell Went Dry

by crazywillie » Mon Jan 25, 2016 6:24 pm

yeah. sure talzia.

you're a drama queen. im very close to a select portion of your crew and when 5 or 6 people sing the same song it can't be wrong. slayde and a few others donated much more than a few copper to that guild bank, similarly to the raid.

you flasked 2 tanks in bwl for a month. im pretty sure with the donations that were given by conet and other herbalists that it cost the guild bank roughly 250 gold a week, tops. after that, you went to 1 flask, thats before tophgoker left.

lets do baisc math here: estimate the low end, 4 boe t1 drops, worth anywhere from 50-100 gold PRESENTLY (not 6 months ago when it was newer and more demanded).

that alone is 400 gold PER WEEK. t1 BOES ALONE! over 30 weeks? thats 12k gold...

ingots go for 1000 gold now. where did the 2000 gold for those go? they were even pricier back when. im sure you got at least 2000 gold from talesavo for those right? 2000 gold from those would've flasked the main tank and off tank in bwl for 5 weeks. thats not even taking into consideration the t1 drops (every run im in regularly sees 5 get sold). the boe blues from ony and rag pay for the flasks for our tanks alone. its not hard to get 250 gold a week just from boe blues off endbosses.

and take it from a person who has been in a guild on this realm, seen it run mc and bwl every week, and seen it grow to over 15k gold in less than 3 months without anything else but selling boes and ingots: youre a retard. and thats nothing "i heard", its something ive seen from your lackluster claims on this post and your lack of accountability with the guild bank.

Talzia wrote:Guildbanks don't belong to 1 or 2 people.

that bank belonged to 50 other people in that guild talzia, not you and the 3 or 4 people you treated with it. for shame...
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Re: The Night the Lightwell Went Dry

by Simonich » Mon Jan 25, 2016 7:05 pm

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Re: The Night the Lightwell Went Dry

by itwasfree » Mon Jan 25, 2016 7:30 pm

crazywillie wrote:you're a drama queen. im very close to a select portion of your crew and when 5 or 6 people sing the same song it can't be wrong. slayde and a few others donated much more than a few copper to that guild bank, similarly to the raid.


Groups of more than 6 people have sung the same song and been wrong plenty of time.

See:
Any religion
The Iraq War
Any media coverage directly after a tragedy


To be honest, I have no dog in this fight but Talzia seems super reasonable and you seem like a drama queen.

Why aren't we hearing directly from your friends who actually know what they're talking about instead of all this secondhand heresay from your dramatic ass, flaming on the forums of a god damn video game about a guild you're not even in.
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