Blizz taking down Twitch Streams of Nostalrius

[joshbpepper]

Sorry but even if private servers didn't exist I wouldn't pay to play the current version of WoW anyway. Really tired of seeing the argument that private server players would be subscribed to wow if it wasn't for private servers.

Blizzard lost these players a long time ago. They did it to themselves.

[JimboPete]

Sorry but even if private servers didn't exist I wouldn't pay to play the current version of WoW anyway. Really tired of seeing the argument that private server players would be subscribed to wow if it wasn't for private servers.

Blizzard lost these players a long time ago. They did it to themselves.

But you can buy a my little pony in game.

[Uzephi]

Sorry but even if private servers didn't exist I wouldn't pay to play the current version of WoW anyway. Really tired of seeing the argument that private server players would be subscribed to wow if it wasn't for private servers.

Blizzard lost these players a long time ago. They did it to themselves.

While this is true, as a business, like Blizzard/Activision, they do not think like us.

[Garfunkel]

Sorry but even if private servers didn't exist I wouldn't pay to play the current version of WoW anyway. Really tired of seeing the argument that private server players would be subscribed to wow if it wasn't for private servers.

Blizzard lost these players a long time ago. They did it to themselves.

It's both true and false at the same time. There are players here who stopped playing retail at some point - it doesn't matter whether it was Burning Crusade or Wrath or Cataclysm or Pandas that made them quit or if they stopped for some other reason. However, there are players here who still play retail as well. I've come across several in-game.

From the few studies done in music, film and game piracy, it seems that Blizzard is right in being worried about private servers and that they do leech some customers away. If the free option is relatively simple to take, it will draw in people regardless of possibly lower quality or some other issues. Which is why most copyright holders nowadays take a dual approach to combating piracy, in trying to make legal options as painless as possible while trying to make illegal options as painful as possible. Which is why big record companies cooperate with Spotify, for example, while simultaneously trying to take down torrent sites and pressuring ISPs to prevent access to them.

[Uzephi]

Sorry but even if private servers didn't exist I wouldn't pay to play the current version of WoW anyway. Really tired of seeing the argument that private server players would be subscribed to wow if it wasn't for private servers.

Blizzard lost these players a long time ago. They did it to themselves.

It's both true and false at the same time. There are players here who stopped playing retail at some point - it doesn't matter whether it was Burning Crusade or Wrath or Cataclysm or Pandas that made them quit or if they stopped for some other reason. However, there are players here who still play retail as well. I've come across several in-game.

From the few studies done in music, film and game piracy, it seems that Blizzard is right in being worried about private servers and that they do leech some customers away. If the free option is relatively simple to take, it will draw in people regardless of possibly lower quality or some other issues. Which is why most copyright holders nowadays take a dual approach to combating piracy, in trying to make legal options as painless as possible while trying to make illegal options as painful as possible. Which is why big record companies cooperate with Spotify, for example, while simultaneously trying to take down torrent sites and pressuring ISPs to prevent access to them.

There is one slight issue with your comparison. If I pirate a movie, music, or another game, I am essentially getting the same product. Like if I downloaded Skyrim on a torrent site, I am getting the paid version of Skyrim. This isn't fully true with a Vanilla server. I get Vanilla, I cannot go and do Highmaul. However, your statement is half true as I know quite a few people in the retail community that only play because it is the only legal way of playing the game (in the US). I tried to bring them here as they, like me, hate the current state of the game and would rather play the 'good old days' when leveling was part of the journey, not a roadblock to end game like it is now. The time I spent playing my current player to level 28 I would have been 100 by now on retail. That is what is sad.

Back on topic: There is still people who play retail who are looking to relive the old days Blizzard doesn't want to lose that income. Out of the 9mil players, let's say 3% oonly play because of the reason above. Below is the math on what Blizzard would lose. Of course they will try and stop the vanilla train as much as they can!

9,000,000 x 0.03 = 270,000

270,000 x $15/mo = $4,050,000/mo revenue lost!

[JimboPete]

They don't care about $4 million a month.

It means nothing to them.

Private servers aren't a threat: Blizzard is simply enforcing their copyright status to protect it in the future.

Are any of you guys familiar with life at all?

[Xylon666Darkstar]

Evident;y they do not. They have zero comprehension of 'the world' outside of their basement and computer screen to understand the reality working around them. Let alone, read "WHY MUH STUFF BANNED NOT FAIR"

[Qubism]

Both blizzard and twitch a bit stupid for doing the banwave. Sure they got to ban some ppl but what do they do after? Nothing becouse if they would really wanna ban out private server streams they would done that by now, it is not really hard for twitch to do. This is just mainly blizzard being greedy and nothing else. Kind off sad to see.

I hope for the gaming community that ppl tell blizzard that they cant stop ppl from playing or streaming on private serversm blizzard should be glad becouse i think that blizzard will make more money then loosing to a private servers.

[JimboPete]

Both blizzard and twitch a bit stupid for doing the banwave. Sure they got to ban some ppl but what do they do after? Nothing becouse if they would really wanna ban out private server streams they would done that by now, it is not really hard for twitch to do. This is just mainly blizzard being greedy and nothing else. Kind off sad to see.

I hope for the gaming community that ppl tell blizzard that they cant stop ppl from playing or streaming on private serversm blizzard should be glad becouse i think that blizzard will make more money then loosing to a private servers.

You literally don't understand copyright law.

This isn't greed.

[Uzephi]

You literally don't understand copyright law.

This isn't greed.

http://techcrunch.com/2007/12/28/riaas- ... -2008-you/ The music industry trying to make legal copies of music on your iPod illegal back in 2007 to maximize profits by forcing the purchase of digital copies after buying a physical CD.

https://books.google.com/books?id=pECHg ... &q&f=false Page 93, showing how the DMCA was changed from it's original intention of helping corporations selling digital goods online to the current state it is now due to corporate greed.

Everything involving DMCA has been the production of corporate greed. A company not caring about 4 million dollars in profit? Do you know anything about corporations, especially ones with shareholders? That decrease in profit would cause an uproar from the shareholders. Let's do some more math for you. If production costs are, let's say, $5 million to keep all the servers up and paying employees and the company is making $15 million, losing almost 50% in profits would cause the share price to not increase at all making the shareholders pissed off! The shares are already in a roller coaster, now add more profit loss to that. Want proof their shares aren't going up? http://investor.activision.com/stockquote.cfm It has been steadily been between 18 and 24. Losing profits is bad for a company with public shares.