Baggenxd from the guild <HONORUS> ninja'd foror's

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Re: Baggenxd from the guild <HONORUS> ninja'd foror's

by ElGran » Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:13 pm

Aniva wrote:Seems like from my point of view everyone should have gotten a chance to roll if you didn't reserve It. I also raided with these guys (1 gal)just yesterday in a ZG.good group no problems, I'd block him if you really feel upset about it. But as a tank why would you even want that weapon? It's not good for tanking. Wouldnt you rather have an alcors or finkles(ubrs) for tanking. Complaining about how you NEED it just making you sound like a noob wanting something only because it's purple and glows green in IF.



it used to be the best mh for survivability until zg arrived. mandokir's is better though since you don't have to rely on a proc to get the def you need.
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Re: Baggenxd from the guild <HONORUS> ninja'd foror's

by Bambam » Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:34 pm

Aniva wrote: But as a tank why would you even want that weapon? It's not good for tanking.


Have you ever heard about armor, def, dodge, parry ? Great mitigation weapon :mrgreen:
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Re: Baggenxd from the guild <HONORUS> ninja'd foror's

by Aslan » Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:32 pm

Bambam wrote:
Aniva wrote: But as a tank why would you even want that weapon? It's not good for tanking.


Have you ever heard about armor, def, dodge, parry ? Great mitigation weapon :mrgreen:

Solely if you are tanking stuff like majordomo (the boss itself) or in a progression guild that doesnt cleave, if you tank a non first kill target, stuff like that. Else please dont :(
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Re: Baggenxd from the guild <HONORUS> ninja'd foror's

by Bambam » Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:50 am

... please get information about my guild before saying that.
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Re: Baggenxd from the guild <HONORUS> ninja'd foror's

by Niko » Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:54 am

forum pvp amongst pvers !! amazing !
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Re: Baggenxd from the guild <HONORUS> ninja'd foror's

by Bambam » Mon Jan 11, 2016 1:05 am

Niko wrote:forum pvp amongst pvers !! amazing !


Well, thanks to this guy, I won't post anymore on the forum. I've heard enough for 2016 already, in that thread and "create an asian server". :roll:
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Re: Baggenxd from the guild <HONORUS> ninja'd foror's

by Dr. Doom » Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:03 pm

Aliriya wrote:
sownu wrote:Try not to think too much, you might hurt yourself.

Point is that BoP, just for example, might be worth 300g to one person and 5g to rest, while BoE is equally valuable for all party members.


Why would BOE be equally valuable, if time to farm money is not equal for everyone :)

Fact is Main spec > Off spec regardless of item condition (BOP/BOE) anything else is just excuses for ninja looters or people who would like to be.

Just like a person can farm 300gold to buy Furor and spend lets say 5 hours of life on that gold farming, so can the guy who wants Turban, spend 5 hours working in real life and pay 50€ to group to boost him over UBRS for Turban till he gets it. Both is money and time. Lets not discriminate then.


Bolded part is all there is to it. "I need the gold" is never a reason to need anything

After having spent 3000 gold over the last few months, I'm currently at 28g only.

According to "I need the money", the vendor money of 2hander dungeon weapons is 5-6g, almost 25% of my current reserves. I guess I can be excused to need every single Omokk's Fist or such in any dungeon farm run since my team mates likely have 100+ gold. I need the gold d00d, dem enchants are expensive, you don't.

"Need the money" is by definition an admission you're just a shitty petty person.
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Re: Baggenxd from the guild <HONORUS> ninja'd foror's

by Dr. Doom » Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:04 pm

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cuz theres petty gold and theres big gold! big money


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Re: Baggenxd from the guild <HONORUS> ninja'd foror's

by sownu » Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:37 pm

Bolded part is all there is to it. "I need the gold" is never a reason to need anything

After having spent 3000 gold over the last few months, I'm currently at 28g only.

According to "I need the money", the vendor money of 2hander dungeon weapons is 5-6g, almost 25% of my current reserves. I guess I can be excused to need every single Omokk's Fist or such in any dungeon farm run since my team mates likely have 100+ gold. I need the gold d00d, dem enchants are expensive, you don't.

"Need the money" is by definition an admission you're just a shitty petty person.


Passing valuable BoE just because some guy can equip it is same as giving him gold. Nothing wrong with that. Quite noble actually. But to be expected to pass gold to some random just because you play with him for 30minutes is wrong.

And if you bring up "BoP and BoE is the same" nonsense you are a moron, simple as that.
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Re: Baggenxd from the guild <HONORUS> ninja'd foror's

by Dr. Doom » Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:57 pm

sownu wrote:
Bolded part is all there is to it. "I need the gold" is never a reason to need anything

After having spent 3000 gold over the last few months, I'm currently at 28g only.

According to "I need the money", the vendor money of 2hander dungeon weapons is 5-6g, almost 25% of my current reserves. I guess I can be excused to need every single Omokk's Fist or such in any dungeon farm run since my team mates likely have 100+ gold. I need the gold d00d, dem enchants are expensive, you don't.

"Need the money" is by definition an admission you're just a shitty petty person.


Passing valuable BoE just because some guy can equip it is same as giving him gold. Nothing wrong with that. Quite noble actually. But to be expected to pass gold to some random just because you play with him for 30minutes is wrong.

And if you bring up "BoP and BoE is the same" nonsense you are a moron, simple as that.


The only difference that exists between needing BoP items you won't use, and needing BoE items you won't use is the monetary amount you can cash in from them. BoP will always give a flat moderate amount, BoE items have a wide range of potential cashing value from just vendor price for greens to hundreds of gold.

Monetary amount is incidental, it doesn't change the principle. Like I said before, the need and greed system is designed to include items worth 20s to items worth 1 million gold. Need if you use, greed if you cash in on them, it's simple. Adding an artificial threshold of "past a certain cashing value, you should need" it's just catering to human petty greed.

But you are right though, it boils down to a difference in character. What you condone is the same reason why corpse scavengers have existed for millenia: A good deal people will have no respect for anything and just take as much as they can, even when they don't deserve it. Just like weasels.

I am glad to be able to look at folks like you, see their tiny petty souls reflected in their eyes, and smirk. Like trash beneath one's boots.
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