Jaya wrote:
Timezones, ever heard of them? Swing shift workers, never heard of those either I assume?
Im really just trying to understand why all the drama over this, doesnt make sense too me. Im giving my opinion just like anyone else then everyone turns aggressive. Guess if I join the pitchfork mob Id be cool?
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Tadbouche wrote:Welcome to my house of pain. The TOS of this server means nothing. There are no GM logs to explain any action taken by any current or previous members of the admin team. There is no transparency. Actions are arbitrary and without explanation. Congratulations, you lord over 6000+ players at peak hours and I haven't heard a frenchy respond to any of this. This is YOUR server. We play on it by your good graces and we chomp at the bit to see this server succeed, yet the players of this server are left in the dark and a select few are given opportunities that the rest of us are not afforded. Let me explain something and let me make it very clear. If I wanted to build something I would be more interested in the people that sneered and scoffed at what I did, at least then I would know what issues existed. The smiles and pats would mean to me that someone knows something I don't and fuck anyone that would pull the wool over my fucking eyes.
rottix wrote:Just a clarification because I would never support that or gloat about it on stream. Secret weapon was just us going out there to get him back which we did and lost our beloved Dipzy. QQ he was given back at the mercy of Keyl.
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nervous wrote:Jaya wrote:
Timezones, ever heard of them? Swing shift workers, never heard of those either I assume?
Im really just trying to understand why all the drama over this, doesnt make sense too me. Im giving my opinion just like anyone else then everyone turns aggressive. Guess if I join the pitchfork mob Id be cool?
People are upset because
a) we suspected GMs favoritism of Exiled via things that have been already explained earlier in the thread.
b) we have confirmed proof that GMs were in Exiled, which cemented our belief that they were being treated better than other guilds.
c) GMs are further misleading us by claiming they have logs of every GM action, they unknowingly admitted otherwise in Tadbouche's image.
If you really aren't bothered by GMs helping their own raiding guilds out, then that's fine. You don't have to. It does bug us though, because we want a blizzlike experience without "secret weapons " giving the edge to one guild, or another.
Zach wrote:Jaya wrote:
Timezones, ever heard of them? Swing shift workers, never heard of those either I assume?
Im really just trying to understand why all the drama over this, doesnt make sense too me. Im giving my opinion just like anyone else then everyone turns aggressive. Guess if I join the pitchfork mob Id be cool?
How is "gm abuse is an important topic" getting past you? It's not confusing, it's really not. GMs are abusing their powers and it's being ignored, that needs to NOT happen.
Jaya wrote:nervous wrote:Jaya wrote:
Timezones, ever heard of them? Swing shift workers, never heard of those either I assume?
Im really just trying to understand why all the drama over this, doesnt make sense too me. Im giving my opinion just like anyone else then everyone turns aggressive. Guess if I join the pitchfork mob Id be cool?
People are upset because
a) we suspected GMs favoritism of Exiled via things that have been already explained earlier in the thread.
b) we have confirmed proof that GMs were in Exiled, which cemented our belief that they were being treated better than other guilds.
c) GMs are further misleading us by claiming they have logs of every GM action, they unknowingly admitted otherwise in Tadbouche's image.
If you really aren't bothered by GMs helping their own raiding guilds out, then that's fine. You don't have to. It does bug us though, because we want a blizzlike experience without "secret weapons " giving the edge to one guild, or another.
I applaud you being rationale rather than aggressive.
I understand and agree with your blizzlike statement but thats unlikely too happen as blizzard isnt running the server. Its just a few dudes running this place, shits bound to happen as this isnt run by an actual company.
In my opinion, the server owners should make some kind of statement explaining why this is or isnt acceptable behavior from staff then stick by it in the future. As it stands now, im not sure what people want to happen beyond kicking the GM that did this?