An Open Letter From <GRIZZLY>

[Ohhgee]

...considering the top guild on the server is leaving.

Debatable

Bugs all over the place (hello thousands of archers spawning in a spot one shotting people), most of which was reported on the PTR (if not by us, by other guilds we’ve talked to). Not only that, but the staff banned Gilnash, Maitoz, and then Monkeynews for a week because they used an addon that existed during Vanilla WoW to queue their respective groups’ players up at the same time. A simple google search, or hell, even the mind of someone who actually played during Vanilla could tell you that this existed.

This is the spiciest part: Guilds who tested for hours on the PTR for Alterac Valley were publicly shamed and blamed for every AV problem on the forums by the staff. Are you fucking kidding me? Man up to your mistake.

Completely agree with this part. Those events left a very, very bad taste in my mouth and I know that 100's of hardcore players feel the same way.

They were literally banned for queueing a battleground together. Macro or not, they could literally all just click the button, get 30 of their 40 into one instance, and roll it equally as hard. I don't care how controversial you think this opinion is, you are wrong, and we are right. If they counted down, they would get 30 in and dirt on your shit pug just as they would with 40.

The majority of the people here want to drag everyone else down to their level of competence, which isn't very high. They scream about everything us or any other guild above them does.

This this this this this 1000x this.

[hyper187]

an open letter to grizzly.

LOL bannED LOOOOL LOLOLOLOL

REROLL LOLOLOL REROLL LOLOLOLOL

GO BUG ABUSE ANOTHER SERVER LOLOLOL

[hyper187]

an open letter to grizzly.

LOL bannED LOOOOL LOLOLOLOL

REROLL LOLOLOL REROLL LOLOLOLOL

GO BUG ABUSE ANOTHER SERVER LOLOLOL

[lolwutticus]

Oh, also, isn't your main "claim to fame" being banned for exploiting on Feenix? I don't see why anyone would mourn your loss.

[DankAzZmemer]

1. By what metric are you the best guild on the server?

they know they arent. they just have the largest amount of no life dweebs who are willing to play 24/7 to go for server firsts (on private servers l m a o).

drawn out content means more time for other guilds to gear up which means actual competition for server firsts of the next raid tiers. Bwl server first would have been taken by dreamstate or nope no matter if grizzly left or not.
If you were around when mc was cleared and remember how much shit they talked and gloated about "server first mc clear" you know that they are quitting to spare themselves the embarrassment of losing server first bwl to better guilds.

grizzly players are the pve equivalent of people who go for r14. they have a lot of time but arent even nearly as good as they think

[Sethzer]

Totally agree with what the "grizzlies" wrote.

Their biggest issue (and something I totally agree on) is the attitude of the admins of Nostalrius, in terms of banning people left and right for no reason or not even themselves knowing fully what happened or why. The worst part is that they are wildly accusing the PTR testers of holding exploits in secret from the developers and that we the testers should be the one to take the blame for all buggy content and not them. How delusional someone can become, I don't know.

And stop using the "It's free" reason. Check the customer support of games that are 100% free to play and that in most cases involve no micro-transactions. Do you see them insult their players if things ain't working properly or being super-harsh to them if they used a bug that the developers should have and could have easily fixed on their own? No. They would probably have reaped the gains, put all efforts on fixing this bug and then let the affected players continue to play. Instead they are trying to threaten them and then publicly insult them (if that would make them feel better)

Eso made a good point which also summarizes my feelings abit too. The focus has become almost only about the population and less about the players. Feenix did that aswell and was almost as rude in return (and if you blamed them for their incompetence, then you were a "toxic" player). Look how Feenix acts now, almost begging people to return and coming with a million promises that things will be back to normal, despite being more dead than ever on more than one of their servers.

[Holmes]

tryhards tried too hard
naiv expectations

tho everyone wishes to have that one blizzlike vanilla server that

i wish all that vanilla project devs would just help each other instead of making one server after another, throwing all their scripts if it dies etc

[Dreez]

about complaining about the timeline being delayed and bugged releases:

chose one or get them some more good devs whom they can trust

[lolwutticus]

1. By what metric are you the best guild on the server?

they know they arent. they just have the largest amount of no life dweebs who are willing to play 24/7 to go for server firsts (on private servers l m a o).

drawn out content means more time for other guilds to gear up which means actual competition for server firsts of the next raid tiers. Bwl server first would have been taken by dreamstate or nope no matter if grizzly left or not.
If you were around when mc was cleared and remember how much shit they talked and gloated about "server first mc clear" you know that they are quitting to spare themselves of the embarrassment of losing server first bwl to better guilds.

grizzly players are the pve equivalent of people who go for r14. they have a lot of time but arent even nearly as good as they think

Thanks. This makes a lot of sense. I wasn't around for the first MC clears, I joined a few weeks afterwards. Thing is though, the most "valid" metric for the skill of a guild right now is MC clear time. GRIZZLY get shat all over by a ton of other guilds if we go by this and not just "LOL FIRST LOL" (which as you said, is a measure of poopsocking rather than actual skill). The fact that other guilds consist of people with actual real life jobs and obligations who can't be online to camp server firsts does not make GRIZZLY the top guild by any means.

[Zach]

Jesus Christ so many idiots spouting misinformation and missing the point.