To everybody asking for a 2nd server.

[sylvr]

9k people is literally unbearable. I can't play my main or alt without spending 80% of my time standing waiting for mobs just to grind on. I don't want to leave here because of the population, but the population is making this shit unplayable. Idc what they do, just make it playable again

[Kdg]

What I don't honestly understand is why people insist that second server of theirs being called Nostalrius instead of something else. It just doesn't make any sense.

Seems to me that people would rather wait for an x amount of time for Nost staff to announce something about a second server, which may or may not even happen, than roll on a different server. Some might even go so far that they get tired of Nost's problems and then quit altogether. Why is that? And please don't say it's because Nost is the only high quality vanilla server around, because we all know that's not true.

And Kdg, you can't honestly think that those things you mentioned about K, that don't even affect ones game play, are the only reason for the population difference? If they are, then I guess there's just something I'm missing, because I don't understand why anybody would mind a 10g respec cap so much that they'd rather deal with all the ganking and NPC slaughtering, all the fighting for mobs, all the lag and dc issues, the reduced draw distance and everything else that Nost is, unfortunately, suffering from.

I never said those are the only reasons, but for some people yes, those features obviously do hurt the experience for them. Like I said I think most or a lot of people want to play the game how it originally was even though that will basically never happen unless blizzard makes servers. One example of gameplay being affected is their Los. Blizzard probably didn't have Los on every tree for balancing.

[Pottu]

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[RumPilot]

Just thought I'd stop it to mention this. I assume it's been mentioned already but whatever.

The logic that adding a second server will result in a perfect divide of the player population between the two servers isn't very sound. Also I don't ever remember retail servers having as many people online as they do on this server either so I don't get whats to be upset about.

[Pottu]

"We do already have DM, and all of the instances work beautifully, but it's important to note (as per the lead developer) that BWL and onward are already complete and ready to ship, it's simply a matter of when the team decides to bring it out. The lead developer commented that they are carefully observing when and how they should pace the tiers, but you can have confidence that this content is coming and already finished and ready to be played. I've been told the major work right now is fixing tinkering with Naxx, which they have plenty of time to do."

If you say so, champ.

Unfortunately you miss a lot of the underlying issues kronos has in your post, whether that's because you're obviously far more invested in that server (having been last seen on nostalrius on March 27th, the day prior to kronos release, while being an officer in one of the 8 raiding guilds on that server), or because you simply don't know better, I'm not sure.

[zipzo]

"We do already have DM, and all of the instances work beautifully, but it's important to note (as per the lead developer) that BWL and onward are already complete and ready to ship, it's simply a matter of when the team decides to bring it out. The lead developer commented that they are carefully observing when and how they should pace the tiers, but you can have confidence that this content is coming and already finished and ready to be played. I've been told the major work right now is fixing tinkering with Naxx, which they have plenty of time to do."

If you say so, champ.

Unfortunately you miss a lot of the underlying issues kronos has in your post, whether that's because you're obviously far more invested in that server (having been last seen on nostalrius on March 27th, the day prior to kronos release, while being an officer in one of the 8 raiding guilds on that server), or because you simply don't know better, I'm not sure.

You mention underlying issues but make no mention of anything in particular which can be a good bluff tactic in arguments sometimes but not here.

You sarcastically refute my statement (the bolded) and yet we just had BWL + other stuff given a date.

If you can't recognize the problem Nost is having right now, I'd say you are the one being remiss to certain major issues, that I don't have to vaguely skate around to mention, everyone knows what they are. Hopefully Nost can right their ship in some way but, let's just try to be realistic is all I'm saying.

[nervous]

You mention underlying issues but make no mention of anything in particular which can be a good bluff tactic in arguments sometimes but not here.

You sarcastically refute my statement (the bolded) and yet we just had BWL + other stuff given a date.

If you can't recognize the problem Nost is having right now, I'd say you are the one being remiss to certain major issues, that I don't have to vaguely skate around to mention, everyone knows what they are. Hopefully Nost can right their ship in some way but, let's just try to be realistic is all I'm saying.

All right, here's a big underlying issue.

Kronos was taken down in its last form because of population issues. Kronos was lucky to peak between 400-600 (from what I heard when deciding between the two servers) at the time, and spent most of it's days at around 200 population. As of right now, it's peaking at 1000 give or take 200, and as Rebirth, Scriptcraft1/2, ED, Valkyrie, etc have shown: you don't grow as servers go on.

There will be a massive gear gap compared to population available on the server in a few months as well. If you've played on the vanillagaming server in recent years/months, you'd understand what I mean. I realize that the gear gap is inevitable in vanilla pvp, but it's much more pronounced when the pool of pvpers is limited to Tier 2/rank10+ players constantly due to the population of the server.

I see it also announced blackwing lair for August. Do you know when Emerald Dream initially announced AQ40? Do you know when AQ40 actually released on ED? Timelines are unreliable and I've only been on one server that's kept its prelaunch timelines (now dead).

I hope you enjoy farming farming Silithus for your rep gear, although I'm a little confused as to why they'd offer that before even ZG is released (not really, I'm sure your server's raiders are burning out and need incentive to log on to bolster your server's numbers so it doesn't look like a deadzone).

Who bugtested BWL? One, two, three guilds? Do you think 3 guilds can adequately test a raid instance? They could, but the chances that they catch everything is slim to none because it relies on player knowledge. Look at AQ on Feenix which took the better part of two years to release. Their C'thun tentacles didn't even attack the raid if you simply moved 5 yards away from them. That's not even delving into the other problems I'm know existed on that realm.

No realm is perfect, and I'm a huge critic of Nostalrius's issues. I just have less hope for Kronos existing by the end of 2015/middle of 2016 than I do for California voting red in the next election. And I know from personal experience how shitty it is to have characters wiped out on a realm you've invested a decent amount of time in to, so I'd rather you didn't advertise the server on our forums and potentially screw over a few brightfaced and impressionable newbs.