Ninja Looter/Players to look out for (CLOSED)

[DarkPhenomenon]

It's a good list OP, don't worry about what these guys are saying. A lot of people like myself appreciate this list, and you don't get a free pass on being a douchbag just because you're sub 60.

[Samsta]

Hey OP,

Thanks for putting myself and the entire guild up there.

I'm sure you believe all 270 members in the guild are just like me. There's no possibility that anyone in Malicious Intent is trustworthy. Everyone in the guild is an evil, terrible person and we must all be watched out for. So really great decision making skills when you lumped us all in together!

I remember a certain story about one man from Europe who grew up as a child hating a certain specific race of people, he lumped them all together as one big group of "terrible people" and eventually when he got into power, he did something very terrible to all those people.

Best regards,

-The Asshole Douchebag Guildleader, Samsta.

[H0llowP0int]

I was under the impression that the list was for "ninja looters" only. Is it a list for Ninja looters OR is it now just a list of people you have decided aren't "group worthy" based on he said she said? I Don't see any evidence of Samsta "ninja looting" posted on here. Not the evidence required for conviction. Why is he on the list then? Your dislike aside he should be removed from the list less your list lose credibility and turn into a popularity contest rather than an argument of fact.

[Kiah]

Calls of hearsay and "he said she said" will not fly in this thread

Samsta - and all members of the guild <Malicious Intent>

lel

[azreal313]

I was under the impression that the list was for "ninja looters" only. Is it a list for Ninja looters OR is it now just a list of people you have decided aren't "group worthy" based on he said she said? I Don't see any evidence of Samsta "ninja looting" posted on here. Not the evidence required for conviction. Why is he on the list then? Your dislike aside he should be removed from the list less your list lose credibility and turn into a popularity contest rather than an argument of fact.

The title of the thread is Ninjas AND Players to look out for, this drama is no longer he said she said, there is hard evidence that Samsta lied to slander another player and has proved time and time again that he's an asshole in-game and out of game, there is no harm in warning others about him and the guild he owns.

[H0llowP0int]

I was under the impression that the list was for "ninja looters" only. Is it a list for Ninja looters OR is it now just a list of people you have decided aren't "group worthy" based on he said she said? I Don't see any evidence of Samsta "ninja looting" posted on here. Not the evidence required for conviction. Why is he on the list then? Your dislike aside he should be removed from the list less your list lose credibility and turn into a popularity contest rather than an argument of fact.

The title of the thread is Ninjas AND Players to look out for, this drama is no longer he said she said, there is hard evidence that Samsta lied to slander another player and has proved time and time again that he's an asshole in-game and out of game, there is no harm in warning others about him and the guild he owns.

Oh so now it's a popularity contest? Is there any other reason to truly look out for a player other than they are a Ninja looter? Do you not think any other issue you have with a player could be solved by /ignore?

[H0llowP0int]

"Lied to slander another player" How did he lie? Crow took a low drop rate epic cloth chest piece by SHIFT CLICKING a boss for a quest item? Oh, ok. Guess he didnt want to discuss that either right? He just wanted to make sure he was the one who got that as well. Only when challenged about what happened, Crow back tracks and then tries to remedy the already too late situation. It is a matter of opinion. IMO it was unfairly taken. You just dislike Samsta and apparently his guild as well. So instead of basing his character on your own personal experience OP has sided with a handful of people on a server of what 2k Alliance? Those who complain about Samsta BANNING you from world chat are the same people who want the world chat MODERATED IE exactly what Samsta did. He moderated it when people spammed ect. Then you cry... over a non permanent ban and beg for it to be moderated. QQ QQ QQ

[Crow]

H0llowP0int and Badtank both members of Malicious intent, not even going to entertain the H0llowP0int guy with a response, he can read my wall of text if this matters enough to him, it answers his questions.

In all seriousness though, despite even their terrible reputation before this forum drama, not all of them are bad. I think a better way to phrase it would be "certain," not "all," but it's completely up to you at this point. They've been practically universally distrusted over on alliance, and I don't think i need to procure anymore "proof" for that, and anyone with a bit of smarts who doesn't want to get lumped in with Samsta and his crew should have just left his guild.

[Phaleg]

My feelings are as such: You as a guild leader represent your guild the most. Generally when someone in your guild does something that makes the whole guild look bad, you do something about it.

Personal Excerpt: In WOTLK, my cousin briefly joined the guild I was in. We did a mixed PUG for Sarth, and he intentionally ninja'd an item. My guild felt the best course of action would be to remove him from the guild/allow him to leave, lest it hurt the whole guilds reputation.

When your guild leader proves to be a chronic liar among other things, I can't imagine who would want to be connected to such a person. Besides, Samsta said it himself. Loyalty is the most important thing to him. People who stick with <MI> are his real friends and everyone else is expendable. Really what I'm doing here is help prune out all the unloyal "BK Randys."

[DarkPhenomenon]

wow, how can you even attempt to defend Samsta after the screenshots that have been provided? Member of MI I guess as Crow said. Sorry dude, the evidence speaks for itself.