by Crow » Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:35 am
"The situation stands as this, Crow you ran a ST with samsta and what seems to be another guildy and when approaching hakkar's death you obviously had knowledge that only one essence of hakkar drops per kill regardless of the amount of people with eggs or the quest. Given this knowledge it seems apparent that you rushed to shift loot the body not wanting to miss out on the quest item and in doing so accidentally in your haste looted a epic chest in error. That alone is very greedy but not enough for total condemnation, I've had a handful of bad quest experiences with you my self and this does reinforce my opinion of you being rather greedy and selfish but that does not condemn you to be on what amounts to a fucking terror list."
Well look who stopped laughing on the sidelines and decided to join the fun!
I stayed for everyone else to get their egg, and had met Conn and Xema previously, would not have been dicks to them and left right after getting my egg even if I did not accidentally loot his robe. I have had no experiences with you whatsoever, aside from seeing you on the top of the Un'Goro mountain and talking, so "I've had a handful of bad quest experiences with you my self"
"Now given the history of what i've heard about the guild <Big Plays> on your previous server this would incline me to thinking that you did this out of a greedy nature with no regard to the rest of your group and no actual remorse. "
I actually just joined BIG PLAYS on Nostalrius, so that's also complete BS.
"Your "proof" shows only to me a heated debate by people a little inflamed with passion and anger over the situation, the ticket you have open shows nothing, I as well can open a ticket window and type shit out and take a screenshot, that evidence is worthless and only exists to try to improve upon your character it's easily dismissed, now on to your screenshots which I think only further reinforce that both sides are just more engrossed with their emotions then any form of logic or reason. What we have here is a guild leader feeling betrayed over a lack of siding with him in what he felt was a clear cut case. Did he overstep boundaries here by removing the player in question, maybe but as a guild leader that is his decision and is really not in argument here. The rest of the shit, albeit holy Christ who goes on /vg/ its a fucking cancer board/, is almost all just personal attacks and meaningless drivel. It flat out does not fucking matter, does it show that samsta is a bit of an asshole, sure fucking does. Does that matter? Fuck no it doesn't, it has nothing to do with the debate at hand as is only being thrown on the fire to torch his character in the court of public opinion. "
All his proof is, as I said before, is a screenshot of me looting the robe, and we've gone over this before. As unfortunate as it is, and that I have to repeat myself again for more members of MI, I didn't actually go on the forums before this thread, and was notified by Xema that he put me up here. Another friend also showed me the post Samsta made about first meeting me on /wpsg/, it was not a thread I actually looked at until this little scene. You then talk of character attacks, when all I have done is show screencaps of things he said to provide whatever evidence I can, while Samsta has resorted to namecalling, shilling, and what started this all, lying.
"I think this argument can be summed up as such, samsta obviously felt your intent was malicious in nature and came to the thread to call you out for it, not realizing that the actual looting was most likely in error and in haste. I also believe this further highlights why this entire thread should not exist as their is always more to the story in real ninja looting and its rarely ever cut and dry. A fucking witch hunt thread, which is exactly what this is, should not exist as it only serves that purpose."
I also thought about if he was actually being truthful and it was a huge misunderstanding, and he may have at first, but as said before, that does not excuse completely lying about what happened. I also do not believe that is a possibility anymore, as he kept his lie up until the very end, where he essentially conceded by asking to be put up on the list, yet here you are, still defending him.
Phaleg is also completely within his rights to "threaten" Samsta, as you put it. All he said was he's on thin ice, which he SHOULD be, after he was caught in a pretty nasty series of lies, and that would have been the end of it. No though, Samsta had to continue lying, and dig himself deeper into a hole, and it eventually bit him in the ass.
"And as for your last post crow, making such claims as "They've been practically universally distrusted over on alliance" is so facetious I could almost laugh. Don't debase yourself like that."
I am not debasing myself at all. I was surprised to find when I looked at the /wpsg/ thread and first saw myself there, he was COMPLETELY hated before I even got to know him. I went into their teamspeak for a little while during our ST dungeon, and some of their members were complaining to each other about how they couldn't find groups, or were treated with distrust due to the guild's reputation. Sure, this is all talk, but it is not entirely possible to provide screencapped evidence about distrust, and the same can be said for your argument that I am being facetious, or untruthful. I think it debases you to keep defending him, again, after he has already conceded, and now has his minions crying about how unfair it is that he got what he deserved in this thread.
I was MORE than willing to let bygones be bygones near the beginning, but this is just part of how I feel about the matter. He lied about me, tried to make it impossible for me to find dungeons, labeled me something I was not. It is only fair then, at least in my opinion, and it seems most others here who are not in Malicious Intent, that he gets put up here instead, for lying about it.
It really is kind of funny how you paint everyone else as heated and emotional, while you are the most uncollected, and just posts before were laughing and eating popcorn.
