An Open Letter From <GRIZZLY>

[Saiaku]

How would you get banned if your first objective is to get GM's at your guild? And I'm not creating shit up, I was part of Grizzly at scriptcraft for a while before I realised that what you did sometimes couldn't even be called "raiding"

You're still spewing the same bullshit and everyone with half a brain can see it, you're butthurt because you couldn't friend any GMs this time and drowned in your toxic logic you can't even see the ridiculousness of this whole situation.

How is our first objective to get GM's in our guild? We were constantly harassed by GMs and treated differently than most other guilds, not sure where you people are even creating this misinformation from now. I'd love to hear some examples of what we apparently did on Scriptcraft, all of your proof and valid information is really compelling. What bullshit? What in our first posts is incorrect. Please, PLEASE, disprove a single thing we said about the handling of this server as a whole in our first three or so posts.

In two posts your logic went from "You guys are all hackers and exploiters" to "you can't get banned because you have GMs" to "you guys are quitting because you have no GMs in your guild". Which one is it dude?

Yeah, I'll leave you now, because you're now entering on the drama-obnoxious nerd field and I don't want to be a part of that little game

[Ellarria]

[zachqt]

It's pretty clear that most people already decided what they were going to post on this thread before they opened it, most didn't even bother reading the first paragraph. To everyone who thinks that Grizzly and other nerds had unreal expectations etc. Let me just link the very updated Nost timeline. This can be found directly on the nost page, or in the faqs.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4

At what point does just taking the devs for their word mean creating unrealistic expectations? At what point does everyone else start hearing the alarm go off because this thing hasn't been updated since a month before launch? Not only does a guild that started here have "unrealistic" expectations because of this timeline, but the fact that no effort has been put into creating an adjusted/updated version of this timeline means nobody has any framework to create what you would call realistic expectations.

The nost staff probably over estimated what they could pull off when they created that first timeline, but now almost 5 months after launch recreating this more accurately should be very possible.

I just don't know if communication will ever improve if it's not something that the entire player base unites and asks for, and as I read all these comments it's clear that bashing people with constructive criticism is this communities highest priority.

100% man, people just see <GRIZZLY> turn their brains off and yell EXPLOITERS; no one wants to think critically about the actual issues we present.

[zachqt]

How would you get banned if your first objective is to get GM's at your guild? And I'm not creating shit up, I was part of Grizzly at scriptcraft for a while before I realised that what you did sometimes couldn't even be called "raiding"

You're still spewing the same bullshit and everyone with half a brain can see it, you're butthurt because you couldn't friend any GMs this time and drowned in your toxic logic you can't even see the ridiculousness of this whole situation.

How is our first objective to get GM's in our guild? We were constantly harassed by GMs and treated differently than most other guilds, not sure where you people are even creating this misinformation from now. I'd love to hear some examples of what we apparently did on Scriptcraft, all of your proof and valid information is really compelling. What bullshit? What in our first posts is incorrect. Please, PLEASE, disprove a single thing we said about the handling of this server as a whole in our first three or so posts.

In two posts your logic went from "You guys are all hackers and exploiters" to "you can't get banned because you have GMs" to "you guys are quitting because you have no GMs in your guild". Which one is it dude?

Yeah, I'll leave you now, because you're now entering on the drama-obnoxious nerd field and I don't want to be a part of that little game

"You've proven me wrong and pointed out my lack of logic and how hypocritical I was; I will now stop replying and pretend I won in my pretty little head."

God job pal, really proved a lot of my points wrong.

[lolwutticus]

No, you know people say we exploit. If GRIZZLY is some big cult of hacker exploiters on 4+ servers why are we never banned? Maybe, just maybe, people like you make shit up and then other idiots believe it.

Did you or did you not get banned from Feenix?

[Dreez]

At what point does just taking the devs for their word mean creating unrealistic expectations?

These are the dev's words:

As a reminder, this is not a final timeline. You should rather consider it as an indicative timeline.

[zachqt]

No, you know people say we exploit. If GRIZZLY is some big cult of hacker exploiters on 4+ servers why are we never banned? Maybe, just maybe, people like you make shit up and then other idiots believe it.

Did you or did you not get banned from Feenix?

I did not.

[Saiaku]

"You've proven me wrong and pointed out my lack of logic and how hypocritical I was; I will now stop replying and pretend I won in my pretty little head."

God job pal, really proved a lot of my points wrong.[/quote]

I could swear you just did the same with your obnoxious nerd kind of way..

[DeeMarie]

Did you or did you not get banned from Feenix?

Grizzly left Emerald Dream after we cleared BWL around last Sept I think, when the server became a shitfest due to the admins and lack of content. Ring a bell?

[zachqt]

At what point does just taking the devs for their word mean creating unrealistic expectations?

These are the dev's words:

As a reminder, this is not a final timeline. You should rather consider it as an indicative timeline.

As we've already stated, multiple times, it's okay for the timeline to not be followed if they EVER update it or give the community ANY information. Instead they sit back and watch as a raving playerbase sticks up for them and posts bullshit to give them give out of jail free cards at every opportunity. You're only harming yourself by doing this shit, the administration has slowly and progressively (unlike this server) learned they don't have to do a damn thing to get you idiots to suck their dicks. The server came out a little under five months ago, we killed Ragnaros March 19th and Onyxia soon after, BWL should be well underway with the gate opening coming up.

The lack of communication between the playerbase and administration is silly.