To everybody asking for a 2nd server.

[pamgin]

I feel like the whole splitting the servers thing is just risky and too much effort. It's way more fun to have a whole bunch of people on a single server. Having dynamically changing spawn rates might be a good alternative, depending on the amount of people in a zone the spawn rates could change. That would alleviate the stress of 20+ people all trying for the same stuff in 4 different groups of 5 and having a mobtag war.

The only issues I could see arise from that are it could be exploitable, it is making it easier technically, and you could get in a situation where an entire cave respawns too quick and you die. Also ores/herbs could be flooded and economy issue etc etc.

Thoughts?

[Lakweeta]

I'd be forever greatful if respawn times on quest items was increased. Take Feelx's quest in Dwarf/Gnome starting area. There's 4 or 5 people waiting and waiting around those quest items for them to respawn, I should know. I was one of them. It took an hour to complete that quest. When I got a quest item before someone, it often resulted in shaming "you F***ing bitch" "I'm gonna kill you" etc. :/

[sanserof]

https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=12399

Final solution, we ban a random thousand people

[Pottu]

Don't advertise.

[tuck3r]

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if you dont like the population you are free to leave at any time, i dont know why you want this changed when most people play here because of the massive population. that is this servers draw, that so many people play here.
everything i have to say to you was already said in the OP

[Xef]

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if you dont like the population you are free to leave at any time, i dont know why you want this changed when most people play here because of the massive population. that is this servers draw, that so many people play here.
everything i have to say to you was already said in the OP

And you can't deny the fact that if the population keeps rising, at some point it is going to be a problem. And just because you, hypothetically, don't mind if the population goes to 20k, doesn't mean other people who play here because of the high population want it to be as high as you do. Or that they have same kind of tolerance for population as you do. And just because you said what you have to say on the matter in the OP, doesn't mean other people should stop discussing this.

[Mdmadam]

LOL no single game server is meant to handle 10k people at once let alone 15 or 20k (not saying this one can't its just not even close to normal). Even current Retail servers don't have this many people online. I love the amazing population but even cutting the population we have in half its still miles ahead of any servers out now which is amazing. Personally I'd love to see spawn rates eventually return to normal but that would obviously require a split in population. People make a point that splitting the pop would also mess with the faction balance and I don't know if this community has what it takes to organize it so there would be no huge difference in those ratios if a new server was made.

[lupeh]

I agree with op.

[azreal3133]

While I love having a shitload of people from all timezones to play with I'm getting rather tired of all the lag, mob camping and stupid amount of "pvp" that comes along with it, as a Horde player you can barely walk for 30 seconds in ANY neutral zone without getting attacked by somebody significantly higher level than you or multiple players equal to your level but all grouped up. Never had to deal with this crap on my alliance toon while i was levelling to 60 and I see now why the horde get so angry, because I'm angry too.

[azreal3133]

scenario 1:
create a second realm
impose a faction cap
allow a cooldown of guild/character transfers of set allotted time to prevent server transfer abuse.
allow cross realm battlegrounds like patch 1.12.0, keeping it within the Nostalgia of Vanilla WoW.

pros:
gives the world pvp/questing/herbs/mining more of an actual blizzlike feel of how a populated server was back in 2005.
less stress on the world, instances, dungeons.
no login queues.
mirror content and patch releases. (no jumping servers to open AQ gates twice etc)
contending for realm firsts less stressful then against 30+ raiding guilds.
can farm consumbs/herbs/ore without quiting IRL job to do so.

cons:
lots of forum QQ.
PVE over pvp server QQ
more QQ resulting in wanting the Vanilla WoW emulation to be changed than what it was.
too much QQ, the second realm fails and population drops below playable amounts of 4,000 total population,
Admins would be forced to transfer everything back to original realm and turn realm B into TBC development realm for future play.

Scenario 2:
don't do anything.
let the QQ ensue on forums
ask for more donations to host a bigger server.
more forum QQ about world pvp and lag.
20 years later when Naxx is out, bring up same discussion about opening second realm for TBC development to contend with 20 year late released Corecraft.

While I don't tend to agree with imba... ever. I actually have to agree with his Scenario 1 here, its a pretty good solution and the Nost devs even said that they really wanted to work on a cross server BG function because its just something they wanted to prove that they could do.