Vis'kag The Bloodletter nerfed? 55.2 dps to 45.7 ?

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Re: Vis'kag The Bloodletter nerfed? 55.2 dps to 45.7 ?

by nervous » Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:52 am

Badtank wrote:Because what else are we going to do? Try to build new guilds when BWL comes out? Good fucking luck with that.


The trick to keeping guilds together in dire times like this is to raid twitch streams instead of molten core.
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Re: Vis'kag The Bloodletter nerfed? 55.2 dps to 45.7 ?

by Ektelion » Sun Jun 28, 2015 1:38 pm

Tbh i am positive towards this change, though i am negative for them applying them before an annoucement has been made.

55.2 dps is a lot on the current state,on the current gear levels, no wonder the rest of the weapons were tuned down already.
( example grand marshal weapons and Deathbringer from onyxia too )
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Re: Vis'kag The Bloodletter nerfed? 55.2 dps to 45.7 ?

by iambrucewayne » Sun Jun 28, 2015 2:51 pm

2 handers off Rag are left in a class of their own after this nerf.
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Re: Vis'kag The Bloodletter nerfed? 55.2 dps to 45.7 ?

by Mobi » Sun Jun 28, 2015 3:51 pm

I was bored so I decided to bask in the outrage of wasted dev time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAdE7DKzR8g

:roll:

P.S. Amplifying cloak should be 10 dmg til I'm not sure when but I'm guessing 1.10/1.11
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Re: Vis'kag The Bloodletter nerfed? 55.2 dps to 45.7 ?

by sojs » Sun Jun 28, 2015 3:56 pm

Mobi wrote:I was bored so I decided to bask in the outrage of wasted dev time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAdE7DKzR8g

:roll:

P.S. Amplifying cloak should be 10 dmg til I'm not sure when but I'm guessing 1.10/1.11

nice so you just demonstrated how easily the DEVs could buff all the items to their correct stats
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Re: Vis'kag The Bloodletter nerfed? 55.2 dps to 45.7 ?

by Mobi » Sun Jun 28, 2015 4:07 pm

The stats are correct. They are running a progression server to the best of the abilities of the mangos core which necessitates certain concessions due to how unrealistic it would be to implement everything and still work on other things. Item changes make the biggest impact with the least effort so of course those will get done (plus, a change to item is actually two changes assuming they are saving the old data, so they're writing two changes (one now, one later) at once).... and never mind why am I even talking to people on here go make your own server and change your own items to whatever you want. There are plenty of guides you should have no problem.
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Re: Vis'kag The Bloodletter nerfed? 55.2 dps to 45.7 ?

by sojs » Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:16 pm

Mobi wrote:The stats are correct. They are running a progression server to the best of the abilities of the mangos core which necessitates certain concessions due to how unrealistic it would be to implement everything and still work on other things. Item changes make the biggest impact with the least effort so of course those will get done (plus, a change to item is actually two changes assuming they are saving the old data, so they're writing two changes (one now, one later) at once).... and never mind why am I even talking to people on here go make your own server and change your own items to whatever you want. There are plenty of guides you should have no problem.

I don't think you know what progression means I still see the exact same stuff we had 3 months ago
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Re: Vis'kag The Bloodletter nerfed? 55.2 dps to 45.7 ?

by Mobi » Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:34 pm

sojs wrote:
Mobi wrote:The stats are correct. They are running a progression server to the best of the abilities of the mangos core which necessitates certain concessions due to how unrealistic it would be to implement everything and still work on other things. Item changes make the biggest impact with the least effort so of course those will get done (plus, a change to item is actually two changes assuming they are saving the old data, so they're writing two changes (one now, one later) at once).... and never mind why am I even talking to people on here go make your own server and change your own items to whatever you want. There are plenty of guides you should have no problem.

I don't think you know what progression means I still see the exact same stuff we had 3 months ago


And I think this is your first progression server. While I share the complaint about the amount of time between content, I don't think they should release naxx so people can have their 1.10 gear, people can play Warsong for that. Also most (all?) classes got several gear upgrades in Dire Maul, so I hope you don't have the same stuff you had 3 months ago.....
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Re: Vis'kag The Bloodletter nerfed? 55.2 dps to 45.7 ?

by Cousy » Sun Jun 28, 2015 7:25 pm

sojs wrote: I don't think you know what progression means I still see the exact same stuff we had 3 months ago


Nov 7th 2004 (release of WoW) - March 7th 2005 (Release of Dire Maul) = 4 months before new content
Feb 28th 2015 (release of Nostalrius) - May 30th 2015 (Release of Nostalrius Dire Maul) = 3 months 2 days

March 7th 2005 (Release of Dire Maul) - May 5th 2005 (1.4 Patch Release with Item updates) = 1 month 29 days

May 30th 2015 (Release of Nostalrius DM) + 1 month 29 days = July 28th 2015 (and they've said the next update will include 1.4+1.5 together which buys them even more time)

So if you really want to get technical, they have another month to go before they would beat the "blizzlike" progression schedule after beating "blizzlike" release by a month for DM itself. Not to mention that we have the honor system which isn't supposed to be in until 1.4 and battlegrounds which shouldn't have been in until 1.5 (including the much sought after AV) or 1.7 (AB). 1.5 was released 7 months after WoW officially released which would put AV release at September 28th to be "Blizzlike"

I understand that they did not follow their original timeline, and I'd like a faster release schedule as well, especially for the early content most of us private server veterans have done a bunch already. But most of people's whining is coming from ruined expectations based on one post from well before server release.
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Re: Vis'kag The Bloodletter nerfed? 55.2 dps to 45.7 ?

by Robotron » Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:13 pm

Cousy wrote:I understand that they did not follow their original timeline, and I'd like a faster release schedule as well, especially for the early content most of us private server veterans have done a bunch already. But most of people's whining is coming from ruined expectations based on one post from well before server release.

Honestly, I don't mind waiting an extra month or two for new content if it means they get it right. My only fear is too many guilds lose too much of their cores before new content comes out.
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