An Open Letter From <GRIZZLY>

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Re: An Open Letter From <GRIZZLY>

by Kil » Wed Jul 22, 2015 5:49 am

Lazermon wrote:My second and final gripe with nostalrius is your irrational bugfixing priorities. Items with incorrect stats (+ items that should be in the game), class bugs and raid content that had (and have) bugs in it does not seem to be your top priority (behind stability and security). Your video and pride of Pyrewood Village was the prime joke in the guild for a very long time. In the beginning we fought for it. We kept contacting you about items that should be in the game, without us reporting it to you, ragnaros and onyxia wouldnt have dropped a single offpiece. In the end, we lost our spark there. We expected bugs such as totems resisting, aoe not stacking on top of each other, bosses not properly reseting their hp, world boss respawn timers to all be fixed within days, but weeks came and went, months came and went, and while some bugs were eventually fixed, it was clear that you didn't really care much for the quality of your end-game content. Some people would say that this is a positive thing, a lot of people never reach this content, and they care about other things. We, however, say that you not prioritizing our raid content is a dealbreaker, and when getting something fixed here require the players to spend half of their day finding 10 year old information proving what they know is right, submitting said information to your bug tracker, and then pray that you give a flying fuck for 2 months, then the motivation just isn't there.


It might be a coincidence but this is exactly how that one Russian server, that took over 6 years to release Nef, handles bugs.

"Yo guys, wanna finish up BWL maybe?" "Nah. The lazy peons don't always have the correct dialog. That takes priority."
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Re: An Open Letter From <GRIZZLY>

by sidesprang » Wed Jul 22, 2015 5:49 am

mike1097 wrote:I just don't get why we should care if they leave?
No offense but does it have an impact for us? I don't think so.
by considering how the grizzly members talk to other people here in the forum I think some people are even happy.

For that I don't have an opinion because I don't know you guys from grizzly. Just wanted to say that the most people wont care.


Sure many people will not care if GRIZZLY are leaving or not, some prolly will be happy. The point here is not about GRIZZLY leaving, its WHY they are leaving, and that you SHOULD care about. Sure close your eyes and believe everything is alright, but it's not.
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Re: An Open Letter From <GRIZZLY>

by mike1097 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 5:52 am

sidesprang wrote:
mike1097 wrote:I just don't get why we should care if they leave?
No offense but does it have an impact for us? I don't think so.
by considering how the grizzly members talk to other people here in the forum I think some people are even happy.

For that I don't have an opinion because I don't know you guys from grizzly. Just wanted to say that the most people wont care.


Sure many people will not care if GRIZZLY are leaving or not, some prolly will be happy. The point here is not about GRIZZLY leaving, its WHY they are leaving, and that you SHOULD care about. Sure close your eyes and believe everything is alright, but it's not.


To clear things, I'm not a fanboy. I know that the server is bugged and that there are problems but I just enjoy what we have because it is just a game. A game guys...
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Re: An Open Letter From <GRIZZLY>

by Gilnash » Wed Jul 22, 2015 5:52 am

hope nost staff learns something out of this

sad to see ya leave grizzly will miss ya

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Re: An Open Letter From <GRIZZLY>

by Aeria » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:08 am

mike1097 wrote:Textwall is Textwall.
Just read a bit. Just think about that the Devs worked hard on this server and they continue their work. You guys just played the game for fun and don't say you had no fun.
If so you play the wrong game or you're playing the game wrong.
Don't blame the devs for the buggs... it's free and it's great.

If you wanna leave do it... but no need for this textwall because 99% of the server don't care because we are playing this game for ourselves fun and not to competite with others in invisible fights.

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Re: An Open Letter From <GRIZZLY>

by Glaston » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:09 am

"didn't read lmao" -all future posters in this thread

For real though, all the people from <GRIZZLY> I have met or played with were great. I'm sorry shit turned out the way it did, you guys are fun to have around, and it's nice having a Horde guild dominating in PvE (besides Dreamstate of course). I'm going to state what should probably be obvious to everyone but apparently isn't: <GRIZZLY> has a bad reputation because they fuck with people and pretend to be retarded all the time. It's all in good fun. I really have a hard time believing there are very many people on Horde that have actually played with their members and still have the impression that they're the obnoxious assholes everyone makes them out to be. They're loud on the forums, and as one of the top guilds on the server, they kind of have the right to be. They've been involved with a lot of events that have shaped the history of the server so far.

I know some people disagree, whether it's genuine or because they just don't like them, but I think <GRIZZLY> had it pretty bad here. Besides the constant accusations of GMs helping them, they've had to deal with a lot of bullshit, sometimes it kind of seemed like they got thrown under the bus to appease the community. They've worked pretty hard to get to the point they were at. They were shitting on MC the week it opened, that's coordination and dedication, I don't care if it's a 10 year old game or not.

Anyways, I hope wherever you play next doesn't shit all over your efforts as much as this server has. Good luck <GRIZZLY> friends, may you die in battle and receive your 72 virgin Arcanite Reapers in gamer heaven.
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Re: An Open Letter From <GRIZZLY>

by SuplexGod » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:11 am

Glaston wrote:"didn't read lmao" -all future posters in this thread

For real though, all the people from <GRIZZLY> I have met or played with were great. I'm sorry shit turned out the way it did, you guys are fun to have around, and it's nice having a Horde guild dominating in PvE (besides Dreamstate of course). I'm going to state what should probably be obvious to everyone but apparently isn't: <GRIZZLY> has a bad reputation because they fuck with people and pretend to be retarded all the time. It's all in good fun. I really have a hard time believing there are very many people on Horde that have actually played with their members and still have the impression that they're the obnoxious assholes everyone makes them out to be. They're loud on the forums, and as one of the top guilds on the server, they kind of have the right to be. They've been involved with a lot of events that have shaped the history of the server so far.

I know some people disagree, whether it's genuine or because they just don't like them, but I think <GRIZZLY> had it pretty bad here. Besides the constant accusations of GMs helping them, they've had to deal with a lot of bullshit, sometimes it kind of seemed like they got thrown under the bus to appease the community. They've worked pretty hard to get to the point they were at. They were shitting on MC the week it opened, that's coordination and dedication, I don't care if it's a 10 year old game or not.

Anyways, I hope wherever you play next doesn't shit all over your efforts as much as this server has. Good luck <GRIZZLY> friends, may you die in battle and receive your 72 virgin Arcanite Reapers in gamer heaven.


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Re: An Open Letter From <GRIZZLY>

by Hammersplat » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:15 am

Aklol wrote:[b]

One thing that should’ve been changed in Nostalrius’ original policy is character restoration. We lost multiple people to random deletions, including one officer who had our entire guild bank, which was full of herbs that included WAY more than any guild had at the time (hundreds of Black Lotus, thousands of Gromsblood/Dreamfoil/Mountain Silversage/etc.). We had planned specifically for herbing like mad men in the beginning of the server because we knew pubbies would level up soon after and it would be near impossible to herb (still actually impossible, can only get decent herbs by getting extremely lucky or teleport hacking around to herbs). We never really recovered from that loss. We have members in our guild that have worked on fairly high-population vanilla servers before, and they know just how easy it is to restore someone's character. Change it.


You can't help but wonder whether a GM deleted that account out of spite.

I also noticed that a couple of people posted on the forums that their accounts were hacked and asked staff to close them or restore them. Then a week later the character turns up ninjaing arcanite reaper mats etc. And nothing is done about it. It seems so unfair. It's like Rules > Logic. Where is the commonsense? The longer you stick by stupid decisions the worse it gets. There is no shame changing your rules to make things better.

Nost did lie about what content was ready. For me it's no big deal, but I imagine pretty disappointing for those looking forward to a race. To then not update the timeline leaves them in a limbo.
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Re: An Open Letter From <GRIZZLY>

by zachqt » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:20 am

It's a free server, how about you just try to have fun?
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Re: An Open Letter From <GRIZZLY>

by Nain » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:28 am

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