Guild running GDKP system

[Ana]

Well, if you don't have the gold to bid on items, you do a few runs where people do bid, get rich

... and are still at a disadvantage against people who farm more gold than you. Because they get their share of gold in that raid as well as you do, and increase their stock faster than you outside of it. If you don't farm gold you'll never outbid farmers (not until they're all fully geared, anyway).

GDKP is ridiculous. It gives gear priority in raids to people who spend the most time doing stuff absolutely irrelevant to those raids. Why would any guild agree to being run this way is beyond me. OP can try, though

[Valdr]

Its unfair that people who invest more time into the game should have an advantage.

Theres this cool new thing called retail.

[The Shortest Path]

Its unfair that people who invest more time into the game should have an advantage.

Theres this cool new thing called retail.

Yeah, and if you like shitty things like GDKP it sounds right up your alley.

[lvkuang]

so far the potential problems:
1. there is gonna be someone hoarding gold and not buying anything.
solution：this can be solved by adding a dps/healing requirement to the raid, if some individual consistently outputting the lowest dps/healing for a few weeks this person should not be invited back to the raid again. which is a rule reinforced by most of the guild anyways. if someone spends the time and effort raiding a few hours few times a week, he deserves to be rewarded. whether its DKP or gold. and he has his right to use his reward. we see a lot of rogue/dps warriors hoarding DKP for legendary items. how is this any different than hoarding gold?
2. rich people joining and buying all the items
solution: set tiers for drops and minimum seniority for bidding on them. lets say we set rank 1: boe; rank 2: bop set; rank 3: other bop epics; rank 4: legendaries. (quite a few of the guilds have different loot rules regarding tiers of drops anyways). and raiders older than 3 weeks has priority over rank 3, raiders older than 6 weeks has priority over rank 4. this should effectively eliminate the problem of new raiders winning more rare drops.

the idea behind GDKP in a guild is to reward EVERYONE when something drops instead of the single individual thats getting it. how many times have we seen rogue Douchebag McMoron hoarding dkp for 4 months and wins windfury and quits the game a week after? GDKP will solve this problem once and for all. because he would have spent 10k or 20k for that drop and everyone in the raid will get a few hundred gold from it. instead of the normal dkp system which leaves everyone else nothing

[PriestInOurTime]

People hoarding gold and the people benefiting from being rich will not only be outsiders as you seem to assume, and thus it cannot be solved so easy.

Players who do not like to farm gold on the side cannot compete with a player both participating in the GDKP raids and farming gold on the side and I'd predict a lot of people lack interest in getting passed over for loot for such a silly reason.

I personally would not stay in a guild running with GDKP for long.

[lvkuang]

People hoarding gold and the people benefiting from being rich will not only be outsiders as you seem to assume, and thus it cannot be solved so easy.

Players who do not like to farm gold on the side cannot compete with a player both participating in the GDKP raids and farming gold on the side and I'd predict a lot of people lack interest in getting passed over for loot for such a silly reason.

I personally would not stay in a guild running with GDKP for long.

now THAT is a valid point...

[Ohr]

You people don't know how GDKP works if you think you can't outbid someone. You don't just bid gold on loot, god. all members of the raid give (for example) 300g to the raid leader and they can not spend more than the 300 on bidding during that raid. When the raid is over, people who have gold left over are given the gold back, then the remainder of the gold is distributed to everyone evenly.
You can't just pop up and be like "one hundred billion gold for the T2 head". There are limits to GDKP amount which are even for everyone.

[pootpoot]

I remember in feenix, people actually make bids to make the price go high to the point that the other dude was forced to give up, and the leader gives it to his friend for free.

Then when confronted, that he didn't distribute the gold out to everyone, the GM didn't do anything about it, and drama arose.

[Ohr]

Yea, GDKP guilds involve a LOT of drama. That's why you need to have a way to track everyone's gold. Best done in a google spreadsheet where everyone can see the gold spent and only the leader edits it.

[smilkovpetko]

Just a reminder for everyone : in the previous project feenix where i played server warsong used gdkp

it killed the server within 1.5 year .

so please don't bring this monster system here. I hope nostalrius will prevent such "sell runs" that includes gdkp selling items for gold.

I don't want same story here because it will wipe out progressing guilds and guild that raid for fun, economy will be unstable , people will become greedy and self minded without any team spirit because Gold > Gear.

pls don't do this at least in nostalrius thank you/.

everything that advertise this system how "purple with roses" is just false propaganda and system is deadly abused too.

(talking from things that i already experienced in previous project).