How´s PvP on a PvE Server?

[Sukosta]

Killing flight masters to keep people from leaving so you can continue to farm a small amount of honor, till its non-existent then just killing people just because.

Its not a matter of skill locked or skill capped players, its a matter of some horde being overly toxic with their "idea of pvping".

Over all i hope they do go with the PvE server because it will open the server up to people who cant handle being camped 8 hrs a day for just being near some lowbie who whines when they lose a fight they picked.

As not everyone has that amount of time to play daily and the idea of being camped while trying to level just becomes annoying and frustrating to the point that they give up and leave the server as a whole.

It should be a healthy balance and open a window for those that dont have the time/stomach to deal with a pure PvP server.

Not to mention increase the overall pop for the private server as a whole. I believe it will be a positive more than a negative, and i welcome anyone on the PvE server should it be released.

So far i've enjoyed Nostalrius, despite the constant overwhelming amount of rank 11+ horde camping certain zones just for giggles or between ques.

Thanks for bringing back the classic experience, its the part of the game i enjoyed the most.

PS: Sure the World PvP wont be the same because its not forced that's just silly to think that, but it wont be non-existent, i played a PvE server on live in classic and we raided horde towns all the time.

The instant go to is "omg noobs", could you i dunno maybe not try to insult possible future players that may join Nostalrius because of a PvE server?

Its not all about you, its about everyone as a whole and as far as i am concerned PvE or PvP server doesn't mean a thing as long as people are enjoying themselves and playing on this server that is all that matters in the end.

PvP as far as BGs go are about the same on a PvE server as it is on a PvP server, I'd say yeah some more hardcore players may want PvP 24/7 hence why they roll on a PvP server, but that's not for everyone and never would be for everyone because not everyone is the same!

Yes, i have 60s on the PvP server, would i roll a character on the PvE server? Sure would, a break from the constant "ermagerd im an undead rogue durdurrdur, rasp rasp rasp, -arms flailing about- let me murder you on your way to just about anywhere", without any real challenge, lol stunlock.

I do not think anyone should have to deal with constant ganking leveling or not and everyone's response being "ermagerd its a pvp server deal with it", the live PvP servers weren't remotely this gankfesty, in fact most the pvp servers were pretty tame till end game, then sometimes you might get into a spat outside a raid.

Depends how froggy you felt right that moment because chaos could occur at just one attack, Good times.

Also did this post get really long? I think it did. My bad, wasn't aware how strongly i felt about options.

[Crom]

Lol @ people who think world pvp in WoW is actually a thing to be proud off. It's ganking, that's it.

Horde attack in groups. Attack a Horde group with a group for a fair fight, watch them run.

and I bet my ass it's just as fun in higher level brackets.

It's only fun when numbers fairly even and so are levels. In level 30+ zones you just see ?? all the time.

It would be good if you could get honour penalised for killing lower players in the open world, but not in cities, because you don't want to stop raids on cities.

You have to be braindead to truly believe that this is a one sided thing. I wrote it again in another thread; People who think that their faction somehow defines their character traits (or the other way around) are fucking retarded. End of story. Alliance gank just as much in just as unfair conditions. You are just not the victim so you choose not to acknowledge it.

Getting penalised for griefing low level players sounds good on paper but is not a great idea because a good part of wPvP was (is?) getting your guildies to assist you on that 60 that is camping you. That's how half of the large-scale PvP battles in STV/Tarren Mill/Whatever erupted back then.

For some reason people join a MMO game but decide that they want to solo all the way through it, uninterrupted, and then complain when they can't overcome the odds alone. Well I got news for you Jack; Grouping up is a core element of this game, or at least it should be. Otherwise there are mighty fine SP RPGs out there.

[Tekko]

Show me where I said Alliance don't gank.

[Finalflash]

i especially hate that night elf 60 druid ganking in stonetalon all day, what an asshole >:(

[Sukosta]

I don't disagree that it happens on both sides, i personally have not done so though.

Mainly because i rather quest in peace, no point in peeing in your own cheerios.

That thought doesn't occur to many though, i've had horde not attack me and then i've had horde not attack me but as soon as they get friends they are like oh lets murder that guy.

I'll go out of my way to even share mobs but i still get treated like im a plague should it sway ever in their favor.

Not once did i experience when alliance had the upper hand anyone help anyone else and be like hey "lets murder this guy hes a jerk for taking our mobs"

They tend to ignore if nothing is happening to them at that very moment.

Then there's the alliance that run around and only PvP instead of questing and when they die they whine at the guy peacefully questing next to the horde they just died to.

Happened a few times, didn't seem to happen as much as the horde side but i think that's just up to who you are questing around and how they value a neutral party.

Edit:(Reason for editing - Did not want to double post)

Anyway i think its about bed time for me, hopefully everyone has a nice remainder of the night/day as it is.

Try not to enrage each other guys, its a game it is meant for FUN you know. Good Nite :3

[Crom]

Show me where I said Alliance don't gank.

Horde attack in groups. Attack a Horde group with a group for a fair fight, watch them run.

You are implying that Horde are cowards who only fight in groups. As if this somehow only occurs with Horde players. You are attributing character traits to half the player base but, you know, just not the half you happen to belong in.

Sukosta

I understand your gripe. This happens to all of us at some point. Sure, I don't want to PvP 24/7 either and I'd like to progress with my leveling but that's a PvP server for you. The thing is that you (the proverbial you) don't get to complain over it because that's how it is supposed to be. Just because Nostalrius didn't have a PvE server (so far) it doesn't mean that we should turn the existing server into one.

[Tekko]

Show me where I said Alliance don't gank.

Horde attack in groups. Attack a Horde group with a group for a fair fight, watch them run.

You are implying that Horde are cowards who only fight in groups. As if this somehow only occurs with Horde players. You are attributing character traits to half the player base but, you know, just not the half you happen to belong in.

So I am not allowed to state my experience?

It's obvious Alliance gank, but I have no experience there, as I don't gank.

You just sound salty.

I'm also not implying Horde are cowards, they are cowards.

[Crom]

I'm also not implying Horde are cowards, they are cowards.

Ok I am done, you are obviously trolling.

[Lucidcream]

We camped TM for a while today. The griefing goes both ways.

As you level up you will encounter horde/alliance in the same questing area and you guys will agree to a neutral ceasefire. One day you will be trying to level and some asshole will kill you. Then he will kill you again. Then he will chase you as you resurrect far from the area you were questing at to kill you one last time. This plants the seed.

You will level and leave the zone and move on. Your questing will be wondrous. One day a horde/alliance will kill you while you are 2 mobs deep and will reinvigorate that dying flame. You decide to resurrect and fight him back, only to realize there are 3 other faction members near him to assist (always) and you will be killed again. This fertilizes the seed.

You level and continue. Eventually you get to the last leveling zones that are only filled with hateful and jaded players that once shared your idea of a peaceful existence. You will run out of arrows and notice that the AV vendor is not that far away so you will run to fill your quiver. Oh my, Tauren Mill is on the way and now you are having flash backs of the level 60's that camped you at the yeti cave.

You decide that now is the time you kill the flight master to not allow the horde to leave and proceed to kill every red name you see to give you a feint resemblance of a feeling of happiness and control you once felt in this game.

You kill them all but the hole stays empty. Perhaps tomorrow.

[Sukosta]

I dont think the server should be a PvE server, because its not and i haven't even really complained at all about the "state of pvp" on the server, merely stated my experience across my characters i have leveled to 60.

That being said, "ones idea of pvp" isn't a general topic because every person has a different ideal thought on it.

Some dislike and some like, some think this or that shouldn't be a thing, doesn't really mean its going to be THAT way.

Its going to be however each player wants it to be, if someone wants to avoid PvP they can try their best, even if it means dying to whoever thinks its PvP to kill someone while they are continuing to run and not fight back.

Or whether the lv 60 in STV camping Nessingwary thinks preventing more possible contenders at 60 is a good way to spend their time then so be it.

I see it as the more time we spend leveling the longer the queue is for you waiting on the horde side for BGs.

Barring they didn't get their fill while leveling you know.

Anyway, seriously going this time. Nite.