Increasing Population

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Re: Increasing Population

by Parachute » Sat Jan 30, 2016 8:47 pm

I think if they were to make a 2nd PVP server it should be a fresh start-- no transfers, new timeline...
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Re: Increasing Population

by PeaceHammer » Sat Jan 30, 2016 10:22 pm

Parachute wrote:I think if they were to make a 2nd PVP server it should be a fresh start-- no transfers, new timeline...


Agreed. I hope that is what they do if a new server is in fact released.
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Re: Increasing Population

by killa162 » Sun Jan 31, 2016 4:29 am

PeaceHammer wrote:
Parachute wrote:I think if they were to make a 2nd PVP server it should be a fresh start-- no transfers, new timeline...


Agreed. I hope that is what they do if a new server is in fact released.



Why would you guys want a brand new timeline? for me personally that defeats having another PvP realm. The whole point is to transfer the flow of people or at least a decent portion of it to another identical PvP realm, not something entirely new. I just started and only gotten to level 22/23, why would I want to start an entire one/two week process all over again? That's stupid. It's clone the server or nothing at all.

Sakatoro wrote:you can also play on the pve server btw


Ha, you're so cute trying to troll. :)

Dreez wrote:especially in that case, they would make no sense, high laggy peaks are not desirable just as low peak times aren't. International servers are the way to go


Then that would leave with only one option, a clone of the current server. Unless they pull a blizzard which I'd doubt they do and put caps on the server and not care what the community thinks about it.

Tinkertown wrote:No. Not right. If they open up a second server that would be because of demand for it. It doesn't follow that they should therefor make the old service worse.

If they open a new server then players can transfer to it if they think that is preferable and stay if they think that is preferable.

If the amount of transfers are really small it would just show that there wasn't demand for a second server. That most players prefer a server that at times has lag over a server with a smaller population. Putting a queue would create artificial demand by ruining the server for many users.


Well both servers would therefore have pop limits, not just the first server. But like a good pop limit would be like... 6-8k sounds about reasonable. That's what we have now, but if the population continues to climb and 10-13k becomes our norm for when we log in and /who to see how many people are logged in, then you know the server is getting too crowded.
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Re: Increasing Population

by Parachute » Sun Jan 31, 2016 6:24 am

Because as big a problem as the high pop is, the number of bored epics who've been 60 since May 2015 here is astounding and a fresh server would give both veterans a reason to start over on a new alt, and give newer players a shot at playing a bigger role in the community and forming fresh guilds etc. We don't need a 2nd server if it's going to be filled with existing 60s who've already done all there is to be done -- what's the fun in that for anyone?

And nobody's taking your level 20 dwarf hunter away either way, whether you can transfer or not, so what does the time you've invested have anything to do with anything?
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Re: Increasing Population

by killa162 » Sun Jan 31, 2016 11:01 am

Parachute wrote:Because as big a problem as the high pop is, the number of bored epics who've been 60 since May 2015 here is astounding and a fresh server would give both veterans a reason to start over on a new alt, and give newer players a shot at playing a bigger role in the community and forming fresh guilds etc. We don't need a 2nd server if it's going to be filled with existing 60s who've already done all there is to be done -- what's the fun in that for anyone?

And nobody's taking your level 20 dwarf hunter away either way, whether you can transfer or not, so what does the time you've invested have anything to do with anything?


Because the time I do invest is basically 3 days a week because of work. And vanilla leveling takes a lot of that time. So that's why it matters. If a second server arose I'd stay on server one, no point for me to start over, and i bet a lot of others wouldn't want to either. If they wanted to reroll alts these so called 60's that apparently don't have alts already... I don't think they'd want a fresh server to roll a alt on when they can just roll an alt with their existing characters so they can transfer gold and items to help it along. Sorry to tell you man but leveling sucks, and endgame content is really the only fun thing.
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Re: Increasing Population

by xiaopingling » Sun Jan 31, 2016 12:23 pm

if that's your perspective on levelling then you probably won't even make it to 60, sorry to tell you
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Re: Increasing Population

by Marcusius » Sun Jan 31, 2016 2:27 pm

Don't mind these tarded trolls OP, the population is fucked up indeed and the chinese are ruining it. 13 k online, the realm is bloody unplayable.
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Re: Increasing Population

by Tinkertown » Sun Jan 31, 2016 3:09 pm

killa162 wrote:
Tinkertown wrote:No. Not right. If they open up a second server that would be because of demand for it. It doesn't follow that they should therefor make the old service worse.

If they open a new server then players can transfer to it if they think that is preferable and stay if they think that is preferable.

If the amount of transfers are really small it would just show that there wasn't demand for a second server. That most players prefer a server that at times has lag over a server with a smaller population. Putting a queue would create artificial demand by ruining the server for many users.


Well both servers would therefore have pop limits, not just the first server. But like a good pop limit would be like... 6-8k sounds about reasonable. That's what we have now, but if the population continues to climb and 10-13k becomes our norm for when we log in and /who to see how many people are logged in, then you know the server is getting too crowded.


Still not making sense.

I guess it would be fine if the new server had a cap. Then anyone who thinks that a cap is a decent solution can transfer there and those who think it is a horrible raid-killing abomination of a concept can stay on the old realm with no queue.

Players wanting a second server because they want to transfer away from what they consider a bad situation is fine. But trying to fix what isn't broken by breaking it for others is just silly. You still haven't even tried to explain why it would be needed to put a queue on a server you are transferring away from anyway.
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Re: Increasing Population

by narutomaster » Sun Jan 31, 2016 3:46 pm

People calling you a racist are making fun of the gamemasters, not you.

There were already tons of similar threads, OP, but every time they just say we should accept people from the whole world and the lag that comes with them.

ur racist btw
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Re: Increasing Population

by gambinho » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:46 pm

I think a new Timeline would be Sweet. Would reroll although i have 2 lvl60
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