Strikers Mark increased droprate?

[snawfu]

The way it seems to be at the moment that different people trigger different kind of loot and its constant for them; some guilds get a lot of DFTs, some guilds get Taut Dragonhide.

And since there's also raids where its almost 95% the same exact loot as last raid, from the same exact bosses.

There is no way that can be right

[Dusith]

Its just rng because your guild dont get DFT, plenty of them looted on server.

[snawfu]

Its just rng because your guild dont get DFT, plenty of them looted on server.

It's not about a particular item you doof.
It's about having virtually the same loot tables for several runs in a row. The probability of that happening isn't very high.

Making the argument of "just because someone got it means its working 100%" doesn't make any sense.

It was just proven that a bug with the Molten Core loot table has existed on the server for nearly a year so could it possibly fit in your head that there is a chance other loot-related issues still exist.

Waiting for a logical argument from you next time.

[Setup]

My guild has never gotten a strikers mark nor a brutality blade
feelsbadman

we havent had a car door, prestors, and I dont think even a single elementium band

we have had good luck with trinkets.

dats rng.

[Jarek]

My guild has never gotten a strikers mark nor a brutality blade
feelsbadman

we havent had a car door, prestors, and I dont think even a single elementium band

we have had good luck with trinkets.

dats rng.

9 months or so of mc and first garr dagger dropped, still no brut blade tho

[Dusith]

Its just rng because your guild dont get DFT, plenty of them looted on server.

It's not about a particular item you doof.
It's about having virtually the same loot tables for several runs in a row. The probability of that happening isn't very high.

Making the argument of "just because someone got it means its working 100%" doesn't make any sense.

It was just proven that a bug with the Molten Core loot table has existed on the server for nearly a year so could it possibly fit in your head that there is a chance other loot-related issues still exist.

Waiting for a logical argument from you next time.

http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Playe ... layer=Ciar

Your BWL seems quite random. A single item out of the pool evading a guild is pure RNG.

You are the one making a argument, because you as a single guild havent seen a single item, that are common. And DFT are really common BWL loot on this server. PS. You are the one doing unlogical argument, about a assumption based on a single case.

[snawfu]

You are the one making a argument, because you as a single guild havent seen a single item, that are common. And DFT are really common BWL loot on this server. PS. You are the one doing unlogical argument, about a assumption based on a single case.

You should probably link a raid instead of linking my profile; I don't know what base you're trying to establish here.

I'll link a few recent ones from this current year.
http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/RaidOverview.aspx?Raid=32168
http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/RaidOverview.aspx?Raid=26911
http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/RaidOverview.aspx?Raid=26027
http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/RaidOverview.aspx?Raid=25767
http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/RaidOverview.aspx?Raid=31327
http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/RaidOverview.aspx?Raid=29471
http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/RaidOverview.aspx?Raid=27703
http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/RaidOverview.aspx?Raid=32168

They aren't cherrypicked however I had to make sure it was the same raid composition (main raid) instead of the 2nd raid nor are they in a chronological order.

Since you keep bringing up DFT for the sake of argument you can look at the Ebonroc drops, Malfurion's chest is supposedly 17,03% droprate while DFT is 17,43% (or 9% each if you want to believe wowdb). The probability of it being Malfurion's so many times in a row or so concurrently is pretty low since the actual loot table for these dragons is pretty big, each dragon has t2 gloves drop chance, unique loot table for the dragon and a shared one between them.

You can also look at those nice t2 shoulders for shamans and mages popping up a lot on Chromag.


I'm sure if you spend time looking at your own guilds' loot you can find patterns on what items drop often and what not.

Also the very original post was about bosses having broken loot tables where they are not supposed to drop items x and y at the same time because of the way loot pools works, not that item z doesn't drop for guild c.

[Dusith]

You really think 8 observations is a solid foundation to conclude anything about droprates? Maybe not cherrypicked, but surely biased and missing any kind of validity.

[snawfu]

I mean you are welcome to go through all the raids between BWL release and now
http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/RaidList.aspx?realm=NRB&guild=Return


Obviously you can't make any serious conclusions based on 8 entries because that's not how probability works, it would have to be hundreds of entries which you can find a good amount of in the link provided.

Reason why I posted those entries was for the sake of a forum post since no-one wants to read through a mile long post like that.

Any actual input on 'Also the very original post was about bosses having broken loot tables where they are not supposed to drop items x and y at the same time because of the way loot pools works, not that item z doesn't drop for guild c.' ?

Or are you going to keep posting on a sidetracked argument where you focus on a single item/single guild/single example basis.

[Nano]

This thread derailed into whining about RNG. All loot tables for MC / BWL are now working as intended and do not need to be addressed again as long as a new bug is not introduced. Some people misunderstand that just because an item has a certain % chance, does not mean your guild is guaranteed that chance. In order to test drop chance accuracy, you need to test the process 10,000+ times to begin to eliminate variance. No guild will ever reach a large enough sample by themselves to say the numbers aren't correct.