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Re: My retail account was hacked and banned

by ceen2 » Wed Jun 17, 2015 12:30 pm

Hacked = translation for: I gave my login to a friend who deleted my char.

Those made up fake storys how you got "hacked" are ridiculous, just suck it up and dont share your account if you have no real friends.
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Re: My retail account was hacked and banned

by Aunstic » Wed Jun 17, 2015 12:35 pm

Diametra wrote:
Brabus wrote:
Diametra wrote:If you are like me, you used the same character names here as you did on blizz. .


literally retarded, not exaggerating.



Thank you for your brilliant analysis.

This thread is a warning for folks whom have acted similarly. There is nothing wrong with using the same character names fool. The error lies in rotating in and out the same form of passwords.

Aunstic the account was banned because it was hacked. It wasn't banned because of the name. Also..can you stop bouncing around threads meting out judgements. For a guy who is apparently intelligent, of what use to anyone is your judgements after the fact? Where are you setting up court?


People started out on the 2nd page trying to blame Nostalrius root admins. If you're trying to insult me when I attempted to explain that there is nothing that goes on 'behind the scenes' with Nostalrius, then go ahead and do so. It wasn't judgment and my counter-arguments hold merit since anyone can go ahead and google what I've said to put shit together.


Also, I never said that Blizzard really did go around banning players on retail by their character names here. I was implying that it would be funny to see them do this.

Mimma wrote:Blizzard would never do that. I mean, I could just create a character named after my big bad neighbour to get him banned in retail ... nah.


Exactly why I thought it would be funny. Of course Blizz wouldn't do this, but it would be funny to see people getting banned for absolutely no reason.

ceen2 wrote:Hacked = translation for: I gave my login to a friend who deleted my char.

Those made up fake storys how you got "hacked" are ridiculous, just suck it up and dont share your account if you have no real friends.

Hacked, keylogged, stolen, etc -- I've grown to think that everyone is retarded so these terms are all the same. No need to emphasize its improper use.

You don't know if the OP had the account stolen through a keylogger so you could be wrong.
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Re: My retail account was hacked and banned

by Diametra » Wed Jun 17, 2015 1:10 pm

I'm not trying to insult you. Where did you read that? And you also know I am not referring to your explanation of how accounts may or may not be hacked.

That you would find it "funny" and your aimlessly wandering around threads to toss off some knee jerk reaction serves no other purpose than to garner yourself some type of feel good.

Why don't you put yourself to some use on the forum?

My question was, of what use are your little judgements? what purpose do they serve?
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Re: My retail account was hacked and banned

by AverageJoe » Wed Jun 17, 2015 2:45 pm

ceen2 wrote:Hacked = translation for: I gave my login to a friend who deleted my char.

Those made up fake storys how you got "hacked" are ridiculous, just suck it up and dont share your account if you have no real friends.


Not necessarily. Phishing sites and keyloggers can result in one having their account hacked despite never having once shared their account information with another person. A lot of gold and account buying/selling/trading websites can install malicious software that will attempt to steal your credentials.
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Re: My retail account was hacked and banned

by Diametra » Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:33 pm

ceen2 wrote:Hacked = translation for: I gave my login to a friend who deleted my char.

Those made up fake storys how you got "hacked" are ridiculous, just suck it up and dont share your account if you have no real friends.



You have no idea what you are talking about. If you can't take what I say at face value, there is no discussion so far as your concerned, so: shut up. your run-of-the-mill dismissiveness isn't clever, damn it's not even unique. ha.

Suck it up? I'm offering advice to others to avoid the situation. Suck it up? There's nothing to suck up. My accounts are all fine and in order.
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Re: My retail account was hacked and banned

by Diametra » Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:56 pm

To put it in perspective:

This hack happened the day I tried to sign on to the new front page sign in of Nostalrius to check password reset. The retail wow account has not only been inactive since february (aside from me signing on after hack)

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/s ... tra/simple

It is also frozen at my request since february.

It's a safe bet that anyone who would hack the account would have to know there is some type of correlation between nostalrius and WoW. As I have no other combination of character names and passwords other than these (only game i play...I'm on a mac), The obvious guess would be it is related to this site.

Is it possible it was arrived at some other way? After four months...hell I guess anything is possible even though the password is not guessable. Therefore: my original intent of this fucking thread stands- change all of your passwords.
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Re: My retail account was hacked and banned

by Aunstic » Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:12 pm

Diametra wrote:I'm not trying to insult you. Where did you read that? And you also know I am not referring to your explanation of how accounts may or may not be hacked.

That you would find it "funny" and your aimlessly wandering around threads to toss off some knee jerk reaction serves no other purpose than to garner yourself some type of feel good.

Why don't you put yourself to some use on the forum?

My question was, of what use are your little judgements? what purpose do they serve?


I took it as insulting only because I've proven to pass around fact rather than opinion on the 2nd page where I attempted to reinforce Viper's reply. The ignorant deserve honest replies. Whether they believe them or not is decided if they reply to my answers.

Now, you may see my replies not useful to you, but I have posts that are actually helpful. I may be an asshole by saying you deserved this because you didn't secure yourself against this even though I never had a post be directly insulting without some helpful tips/notes. My replies stating what would be humorous can be ignored -- they're not insulting unless you're one of those people who say opinions afflict them through the screen.

As stated, I've put effort in posts on the forum. If you haven't bothered to look at my support posts, AverageJoe and I have been monitoring that section for quite some time.
https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic. ... 248#p90533
https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic. ... 376#p91145
https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic. ... 196#p90154
https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic. ... 853#p88105
https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic. ... 136#p87847 (all my posts in this thread)
https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic. ... 404#p85434
https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic. ... 327#p84846
https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic. ... 639#p86825 (Daemon reinforced everything after my reply)
https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic. ... 295#p84849
https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic. ... 325#p84755
https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic. ... 694#p87705
https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic. ... 756#p81330
https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic. ... 472#p79469
https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic. ... 785#p76968
https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic. ... 070#p76970
... and many more...

My judgments aren't better or worse than any other judgments out there. If you ask me this, you mind as well ask all the 'popular' people here about their judgments if you're picking mine out of the bunch. People like Matt (MattsMom), ogtucker (tuck3r), and let's include Brabus's reply in this thread are all not useful. Brabus may be helpful elsewhere, but the first 2 are just forum trolls who just fish for guaranteed replies. I'm just an asshole by nature.

AverageJoe wrote:Not necessarily. Phishing sites and keyloggers can result in one having their account hacked despite never having once shared their account information with another person. A lot of gold and account buying/selling/trading websites can install malicious software that will attempt to steal your credentials.


Just to add on to this, I read over this PDF some time ago on hack.lu ... just to make things even more scarier. I also heard something about people monitoring the keyboard clicks to determine what you're typing from distances away. I doubt any of this has happened to Nostalrius accounts or anyone cares this much, but its just throwing that out there that anything is possible these days.
Hardware keyloggers: http://2013.hack.lu/archive/2010/Mihail ... slides.pdf
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Re: My retail account was hacked and banned

by Mdmadam » Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:13 pm

I've had worse happen to me then you. I had an authenticator attached to my account and was still hacked. And by the time I came back to the game, after a long break, almost all of my stuff was gone. I contacted a GM through email and they said they couldn't restore my items. This is very frustrating because my authenticator was still active and attached to my phone so it makes it hard for me to figure out how they hacked it. Secondly all of the time and effort I put into my toon from the very launch of the game until that point in time (it was mid-Cata era) was wiped clean. That was a lot of time and money down the drain. At that point I unsubscribed, told them I was not going to be purchasing any more of their expansions or resubscribing and also let them know that I would be advising many of their customers to do the same. I then wished them best of luck with their sinking ship and that was that. Oh and yes I've been able to get a numerous amount of people I know to stop playing retail WoW and continue to campaign against Activision and its crap. I think 20-25 friends I know in real life have quit, some even play on this server today.
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Re: My retail account was hacked and banned

by Aunstic » Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:24 pm

Diametra wrote:To put it in perspective:

This hack happened the day I tried to sign on to the new front page sign in of Nostalrius to check password reset. The retail wow account has not only been inactive since february (aside from me signing on after hack)

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/s ... tra/simple

It is also frozen at my request since february.

It's a safe bet that anyone who would hack the account would have to know there is some type of correlation between nostalrius and WoW. As I have no other combination of character names and passwords other than these (only game i play...I'm on a mac), The obvious guess would be it is related to this site.

Is it possible it was arrived at some other way? After four months...hell I guess anything is possible even though the password is not guessable. Therefore: my original intent of this fucking thread stands- change all of your passwords.


Should probably include that everyone use a unique password like I hope you're doing this time around.

Mdmadam wrote:I've had worse happen to me then you. I had an authenticator attached to my account and was still hacked. And by the time I came back to the game, after a long break, almost all of my stuff was gone. I contacted a GM through email and they said they couldn't restore my items. This is very frustrating because my authenticator was still active and attached to my phone so it makes it hard for me to figure out how they hacked it. Secondly all of the time and effort I put into my toon from the very launch of the game until that point in time (it was mid-Cata era) was wiped clean. That was a lot of time and money down the drain. At that point I unsubscribed, told them I was not going to be purchasing any more of their expansions or resubscribing and also let them know that I would be advising many of their customers to do the same. I then wished them best of luck with their sinking ship and that was that. Oh and yes I've been able to get a numerous amount of people I know to stop playing retail WoW and continue to campaign against Activision and its crap. I think 20-25 friends I know in real life have quit, some even play on this server today.


I don't know whether the authentication is through an app or by a call or by SMS, but I seen something along the lines of it being Java-based. If its an app, someone can Man in the Middle packets if you connected your phone to a public WiFi. Retrieving your account credentials is a different story since there's tons of ways someone can target you. Phishing site, java driveby through a welcome page from a public wifi, or the auth app sends the account email with a 4+ digit as the 2 factor auth (2FA).

You could've been a random target, Blizzard made you susceptible to be a target, or you accidentally/purposely became a target. Either way, shit happens.
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Re: My retail account was hacked and banned

by Diametra » Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:38 pm

Aunstic,

You don't get it. Your judgements have exactly zero relevance. You deciding whether or not someone deserved something means nothing to anyone here. I don't know you. I assume no one here knows you. Your value calls mean nothing.

The point is for folks to change all of their passwords if they had made similar accounts as I have. You presenting the same argument as if it is somehow a counterargument is silly.

You had made exactly two posts in support forum this morning when i read yours here.

the first was you passing judgement on someone that their English wasn't decent enough. The second was you again passing judgement that someone deserved whatever they got. The third here was you stating you would find it "funny" if people got banned. I don't need to root any further than that. And have no desire to, becuase I don't care about you or your opinion.

No one elected you judge guy. And no one cares about your "opinion". Stick to the facts and be of use, otherwise do yourself a favor and shut up...because no one cares about your opinion except yourself.
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