Biznicks 247x128 Accurascope + Melee Hit Confirmed

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Re: Biznicks 247x128 Accurascope + Melee Hit Confirmed

by Youfie » Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:29 am

The Shortest Path wrote:
Youfie wrote:Since we're in 1.12 regarding +Hit & Miss Penalty, actually letting the Scope affect melee weapons wouldn't make sense at all atm on Nostalrius, because on retail it was useless until 1.8, and it wouldn't be here.


Only content is being backpatched, not mechanics. That is exactly what the Nostalrius staff have said.

This is a bad argument anyway because then you should also delete all the hit gear that warriors are using to be viable dps at all, since they "shouldn't" get any benefit from it.


And I'm perfectly aware that only content is backpatched, not the mechanics. This is why +Hit items are able to counteract the Miss Penalty on Nostalrius, and this is fine.

I don't know why you seem to understand my argument suggested that +hit gear should be deleted or anything, this is absolutely not what I meant.

I was just illustrating why what you claimed to be a "Blizzlike bug" would turn out to be something absolutely not Blizz-like if it was reproduced on Nostalrius, while not reproducing it is actually way more close to what happened on retail servers.
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Re: Biznicks 247x128 Accurascope + Melee Hit Confirmed

by Bio-Booster » Thu Sep 03, 2015 3:47 am

The Shortest Path wrote:
Bio-Booster wrote:Respecd out of surefooted


why are you specced into surefooted


PvP?

To be fair, reading 10 year old talent descriptions is hard.

You're right though, having 15% resist to frost nova/frost shock/hamstring/crippling poison etc etc etc, is just a total waste of talent points when you're grinding to rank 12.


Böw wrote:
Nah you don't need hit over 7% currently for any pvp or pve situation. Haven't missed a tranq ever and my dps still rolls with 7%. You can easily get 7% with raid/pvp gear without surefooted or shitty gear like mask of the unforgiven.


I see getting into a decent guild, and installing a shot timer has inflated your ego a bit too far there buddy.
Gj though, posting personal anecdotes as fact, in the face of 10 years of math and thousands of hours of testing showing exactly the opposite of what you posted.

Doesn't matter if you're doing 1000 dps with 7% hit, you do more on average over time, on boss fights, when you are hit capped.
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Re: Biznicks 247x128 Accurascope + Melee Hit Confirmed

by squibble » Thu Sep 03, 2015 5:10 am

Nano wrote:https://report.nostalrius.org/plugins/tracker/?aid=2193

A fix is being put in to insure the Accurascope only affects ranged attacks and the Elemental sharpening stones only affect melee attacks. This is how it will work on Nostalrius.


wow so blizzlike :?
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Re: Biznicks 247x128 Accurascope + Melee Hit Confirmed

by Böw » Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:07 am

i'm just gonna message you in game instead of this post
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Re: Biznicks 247x128 Accurascope + Melee Hit Confirmed

by 50shadesofayyy » Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:43 pm

Böw wrote:i'm just gonna message you in game instead of this post


You should do that. You just got owned.
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Re: Biznicks 247x128 Accurascope + Melee Hit Confirmed

by Mud » Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:51 pm

50shadesofayyy wrote:
Böw wrote:i'm just gonna message you in game instead of this post


You should do that. You just got owned.


He's in Axiom, I think he knows what he's doing.
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Re: Biznicks 247x128 Accurascope + Melee Hit Confirmed

by Böw » Thu Sep 03, 2015 8:16 pm

Mud wrote:
50shadesofayyy wrote:
Böw wrote:i'm just gonna message you in game instead of this post


You should do that. You just got owned.


He's in Axiom, I think he knows what he's doing.


http://imgur.com/2o0Jkbp

I'd just rather handle it in game is all.


The forums bring out a more dickish than usual attitude from me for some reason. Maybe we can have an intelligent discussion in game without a bunch of trolls inputting their garbage.
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Re: Biznicks 247x128 Accurascope + Melee Hit Confirmed

by Imbaslap » Thu Sep 03, 2015 9:13 pm

Marisi is looking pretty sexy in that picture Bow. ;)
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Re: Biznicks 247x128 Accurascope + Melee Hit Confirmed

by Böw » Thu Sep 03, 2015 9:17 pm

Imbaslap wrote:Marisi is looking pretty sexy in that picture Bow. ;)



o yes. always.
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Re: Biznicks 247x128 Accurascope + Melee Hit Confirmed

by Setup » Fri Sep 04, 2015 2:33 am

Böw wrote:
http://imgur.com/2o0Jkbp

I'd just rather handle it in game is all.

The forums bring out a more dickish than usual attitude from me for some reason. Maybe we can have an intelligent discussion in game without a bunch of trolls inputting their garbage.


The trouble with using these rankings as if they actually mean anything is that they really don't actually mean anything.

Players of greater or equal gear/ability are frequently lower down on the list than players of lesser gear/ability, often by margins as large as 30%. This is because your DPS is largely composed of factors you don't control.

For example, if the overall DPS of the raid is higher, your individual DPS will appear to increase. A player doing 300 DPS in a <Blacklisted> raid might go on to do 350 in <Entitled> while using the same gear and play-style, only by changing raids. If your casters are flasked, your DPS will appear to be larger. If your guild uses strategy A, and someone else uses strategy B, DPS values will change. Etc.

You can use this data as a loose approximation of skill (i.e. its okay to say you're probably better with 200 ranks between you), but there's literally no point in comparing individuals in the same 'league' because the data doesn't actually demonstrate anything.
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