So now that tribute is super broken, when is the mara fix?

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Re: So now that tribute is super broken, when is the mara fi

by stimz » Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:17 pm

gotmilk0112 wrote:If they nerf mara, I hope they plan on nerfing Scholo, because hunters can solo that too. And ZF, because hunters can solo that too. And BRD arena, because hunters can solo that too. And...you get the idea.

Hunters can solo so much shit to farm gold; it'd be easier to just remove hunters from the game instead of "nerfing" all of the things they can solo.

Nain wrote:I don't believe many preventative measures aimed to stem gold farming have really been made by the Nostalrius developers, but there's no reason to feel bitter if there are any steps taken to reduce or eliminate certain methods of generating income.

Blizzard's developers made changes during the course of the game, ranging from randomizing or removing certain chests, and removing drops. If the developers of Warcraft during the Vanilla era were as keen on the topic of gold farming as we are now, a lot of these options wouldn't exist in their current form.


But the thing is, this is a vanilla server. It's supposed to be like vanilla, not vanilla + modern changes. For the server to be truly "blizzlike", things like this have to remain intact. When the admins start implementing non-blizzlike scripts to break things that were blizzlike in vanilla, that's kinda bad.

Fixing serious bugs and exploits, yeah, that's fine. But DM N soloing did not involve any bugs or exploits. Just clever use of ingame mechanics. Even Blizzard didn't "fix" it the same way nost did, they just changed it in 1.9, making it so that you can't solo pull the king anymore. You could still solo it, it was just harder to do.



I keep hearing blizzlike content, while seeing bugs reported before I even started playing on this server (less than a month into release) still untouched today. This server isn't blizzlike, that much has been obvious for a while. It's nostlike, deal with it.

Also, by definition blizzlike is not perma vanilla. If it were perma vanilla then blizzlike would be patching all widespread exploits. I don't see the problem either way.
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Re: So now that tribute is super broken, when is the mara fi

by gotmilk0112 » Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:44 pm

stimz wrote:I keep hearing blizzlike content, while seeing bugs reported before I even started playing on this server (less than a month into release) still untouched today. This server isn't blizzlike, that much has been obvious for a while. It's nostlike, deal with it.


"Blizzlike" does not mean "100% carbon copy of retail servers".

"Blizzlike" simply means the server is attempting to be similar to retail servers, because the opposite of blizzlike is "fun server" which is all about custom content and things that are not at all like retail servers.

Just because there are bug fixes does not mean the server is "not blizzlike". There are 0 private servers in existence that are 100% "blizzlike".
knotic wrote:wait this is 2015. blizzard didnt do this in 2015. year is non-blizzlike omg omg
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Re: So now that tribute is super broken, when is the mara fi

by Ohr » Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:59 pm

The hilarious part is that these are not bugs.
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Re: So now that tribute is super broken, when is the mara fi

by Chillout » Tue Sep 15, 2015 3:04 pm

Maraudon is comparable to other means of farming so there's no point on "nerfing" that as well. DMN was almost triple profit, so I'm sure they wanted to battle RWTing with that.
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Re: So now that tribute is super broken, when is the mara fi

by Xylon666Darkstar » Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:56 pm

These weren't bugs. They were blatant customization.
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Re: So now that tribute is super broken, when is the mara fi

by Norjak » Tue Sep 15, 2015 11:55 pm

In before "industrial level" Mara farming is claimed as a reason for your ban.

No bans for "industrial level" Tribute farming.

I took an "industrial level" dump today, though - glad I'm not banned yet...

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Re: So now that tribute is super broken, when is the mara fi

by stimz » Wed Sep 16, 2015 1:32 am

gotmilk0112 wrote:
stimz wrote:I keep hearing blizzlike content, while seeing bugs reported before I even started playing on this server (less than a month into release) still untouched today. This server isn't blizzlike, that much has been obvious for a while. It's nostlike, deal with it.


"Blizzlike" does not mean "100% carbon copy of retail servers".

"Blizzlike" simply means the server is attempting to be similar to retail servers, because the opposite of blizzlike is "fun server" which is all about custom content and things that are not at all like retail servers.

Just because there are bug fixes does not mean the server is "not blizzlike". There are 0 private servers in existence that are 100% "blizzlike".


okay, tell me when my blizzlike seal of the crusaders 40% dr per hit works. tell me when my r4 holy light gets its correct 70%ish coeff instead of 40%isn. tell me when consecration stops scaling with ap. or whe n crusader enchant procs off hamsting. or when serpent sting is treated as a weapon attack instead of a spell. when core shit has been broken since release and you still wanna pretend its blizzlike, youre wrong.

its nostlike bro, expect nostlike balance changes.

and btw, a happy medium between blizzlike and fun server exists or you would have left once your 9 to 5 dm north was nerfed.
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Re: So now that tribute is super broken, when is the mara fi

by Böw » Wed Sep 16, 2015 3:45 am

pantsman27 wrote:I think i speak for everyone when I say I'm so tired of you posting on these forums Bow.



Well bow isn't tired of bow posting on these forums so move along little one.
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Re: So now that tribute is super broken, when is the mara fi

by gotmilk0112 » Wed Sep 16, 2015 4:44 am

stimz wrote:when core shit has been broken since release and you still wanna pretend its blizzlike, youre wrong.


And herein lies the problem with the term "blizzlike".

You could have an entire raid be 110% exactly like retail, but if one little thing is different, people like you will cry and bitch that it's "not blizzlike".

No private server will ever be 100% blizzlike, so decrying nost as "not blizzlike" just because it's not 100% blizzlike is retarded.
knotic wrote:wait this is 2015. blizzard didnt do this in 2015. year is non-blizzlike omg omg
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Re: So now that tribute is super broken, when is the mara fi

by Ohr » Wed Sep 16, 2015 7:02 am

Chillout wrote:Maraudon is comparable to other means of farming so there's no point on "nerfing" that as well. DMN was almost triple profit, so I'm sure they wanted to battle RWTing with that.

DM 60-100g/h
Mara 40-60g/h

Triple.. riiiight.
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