Working Summoning Stones

[Warrgasm]

I don't mind how they work now at all. I love it. You don't gotta deal with lazy punks who refuse to hoof it and make others have to run and summon. I've also noticed patience seems higher when forming a group. The "gogo" asses seem further apart now than when I played retail and the stones summoned.

[Nahkmos]

summoning stones at this moment of the game was only "meeting stone" in fact.

and having to walk to dungeon in how you most of the time meet people and learn to know them witch was what made vanilla so awesome : you had to talk with people and sometimes you had really good time doing so.

so to my opinion just let it like that it will give us a much more enjoyable time, Wow vanilla is not only about rushing it's also about community that's what blizzard lost with all the summoning stones, LFR, LFG and all stuf that makes the game a fast food.

vanilla takes time, and that's how it's good.

[Takayamushi]

This whole thing seems like an infinite loop. People want Vanilla, they get it then ask for conveniant things. They receive said conveniance and then the game becomes more and more conveniant... until the day that people want vanilla again, then some other will come and ask for conveniance...

[eotrampage]

This whole thing seems like an infinite loop. People want Vanilla, they get it then ask for conveniant things. They receive said conveniance and then the game becomes more and more conveniant... until the day that people want vanilla again, then some other will come and ask for conveniance...

Anyone who wanted pure vanilla is dumb as fuck... Vanilla never was a perfect and complete game, its a starting point.
Theyre all noobs who want to feel elite and spout some nonsense. They heard wow sucks but they dont know what made it suck so they hate on everything after vanilla because theyre idiots.

Additions like LFG or BG queues were not what made WoW bad, it was the horrible childish content or timefill content with each expansion that could be run by blind monkeys that killed it, not the way you entered it.

Every WoW veteran I know doesnt want to play a pure vanilla, they want WoW done right so that means starting at vanilla and adding the good things while not doing the bad things blizz did its really quite simple.

[NicolasMage]

This whole thing seems like an infinite loop. People want Vanilla, they get it then ask for conveniant things. They receive said conveniance and then the game becomes more and more conveniant... until the day that people want vanilla again, then some other will come and ask for conveniance...

Anyone who wanted pure vanilla is dumb as fuck... Vanilla never was a perfect and complete game, its a starting point.
Theyre all noobs who want to feel elite and spout some nonsense. They heard wow sucks but they dont know what made it suck so they hate on everything after vanilla because theyre idiots.

Additions like LFG or BG queues were not what made WoW bad, it was the horrible childish content or timefill content with each expansion that could be run by blind monkeys that killed it, not the way you entered it.

Every WoW veteran I know doesnt want to play a pure vanilla, they want WoW done right so that means starting at vanilla and adding the good things while not doing the bad things blizz did its really quite simple.

How can you post that shit and then expect people (such as myself) to not be rude to you? Fuck off to Kronos you gigantic moron.

We know exactly what we want to play, we want to play the game that we grew to love, the version of the game where you had to communicate with people to get stuff done, the version of the game that took ages to do the smallest thing.

Dungeon finder did ruin the game, it removed the social aspect. You no longer had to befriend people to get groups done, or even be nice to the people in your group (you're never going to see them again and they werent even on your server).

What you're spouting is utter tripe. You are the biggest moron on this server. Congratulations on becoming the biggest moron on the same server as Nain, that really is an accomplishment.

[eotrampage]

This whole thing seems like an infinite loop. People want Vanilla, they get it then ask for conveniant things. They receive said conveniance and then the game becomes more and more conveniant... until the day that people want vanilla again, then some other will come and ask for conveniance...

Anyone who wanted pure vanilla is dumb as fuck... Vanilla never was a perfect and complete game, its a starting point.
Theyre all noobs who want to feel elite and spout some nonsense. They heard wow sucks but they dont know what made it suck so they hate on everything after vanilla because theyre idiots.

Additions like LFG or BG queues were not what made WoW bad, it was the horrible childish content or timefill content with each expansion that could be run by blind monkeys that killed it, not the way you entered it.

Every WoW veteran I know doesnt want to play a pure vanilla, they want WoW done right so that means starting at vanilla and adding the good things while not doing the bad things blizz did its really quite simple.

How can you post that shit and then expect people (such as myself) to not be rude to you? Fuck off to Kronos you gigantic moron.

We know exactly what we want to play, we want to play the game that we grew to love, the version of the game where you had to communicate with people to get stuff done, the version of the game that took ages to do the smallest thing.

Dungeon finder did ruin the game, it removed the social aspect. You no longer had to befriend people to get groups done, or even be nice to the people in your group (you're never going to see them again and they werent even on your server).

What you're spouting is utter tripe. You are the biggest moron on this server. Congratulations on becoming the biggest moron on the same server as Nain, that really is an accomplishment.

Im willing to bet that you played blizzard's WoW all the way trough including the newest expansion, I quit after WoTLK was another slap in the face. I think that gives me a much better position to judge what made WoW bad than a moron like you who would play anything

[NicolasMage]

I've played every WoW expansion with the exception of MoP, which I found incredibly boring. I'm here to play Vanilla, not because I think it was the best version of WoW (which I actually don't, I'll always prefer TBC) but simply because I want to play Vanilla. I don't want to play an updated Vanilla with all the convinience crap, I (and most others here) want to play Vanilla as it was, bad points included.

You have no right to judge anything here as it is you who doesn't know what he wants, not us. You also have no right, at all, to call anybody a moron. I'm going to explain to you why you are a moron, I'd like you to try and do the same for me:

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Point one: You said that dungeon finder didn't ruin wow, "childish content" did. But then you also just said that Wotlk was a slap in the face. First a foremost, with the exception of T7 and T9, raiding end game in Wotlk was far harder than raiding in Vanilla (10man and normal modes don't count, end-game at the time was 25 heroic).

"More people cleared LK 25heroic than those who cleared Naxx40!" you may be thinking. Correct, however getting into raids was much easier in Wotlk onwards than it was in Vanilla. Wanted to raid Naxx? You first had to do MC, BWL and AQ, you also had to be lucky enough to receive decent gear. Wotlk made it so anybody could easily get to the end-tier raid, so more people were able to do ICC. I'm not here to argue whether that's good or bad, personally I disliked the "skip all previous content" direction that Blizzard took, but they had to do it to cater to everybody.

Point two: You've not said anything at all that backs up anything you've said. All you've done is said something and then announced that anybody who disagrees with your opinion is stupid, that's how a twelve year old argues.

Point Three: Playing fewer WoW expansions than me doesn't put you in a better position than me to judge what made WoW bad, it's quite the opposite actually. You might as well say "Slipknot are a terrible metal band, I know becaue I listen to Metallica and Kiss".

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No, I didn't find MoP boring because somebody said "oh my god this game is shit now, why would Blizzard add something as childish as pandas I quit". I found it boring because the charcter scaling was way to high (any low level could solo a dungeon with a few looms) and the content simply didn't interest me.

[eotrampage]

My point is if you never found WoW too be so bad that you quit you cant imagine what players want who did quit because it got too bad.

[Winterflaw]

I'd prefer the stones *not* the summon.

The time and effort invested *before* entering an instance is a considerable factor in keeping the group together in the event of wipes. It also allows people time to chat a little, get to know each other, plan a bit - make friends, be more effective, etc, etc.

Everything in fact that was wiped out by Dungeon Finder. The Summoning Stone is merely a small step on that continuum, but it is still on that continuum.

[NicolasMage]

Your point is moot, what you want is different to what people here want. What people here want is Vanilla, as it was. Not WoW as it could've been had Blizzard catered to a small minority of people.

If you want Vanilla with extra shit added (like reduced respec costs, summoning stones, cheaper mounts and the ability to buy gear) then go to Kronos.