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Re: Black Lotus in DM

by Pulsar » Mon Nov 23, 2015 6:40 pm

varth wrote:I don't really care how they do it, but nost needs to find some way to inject 200% more black lotus per week onto the server or we will be in deep trouble once aq40 comes out. A lot of guilds will want to flask on that instance (especially titans on Cthun) and it will cause prices to spike even further. Lets not even begin to talk about how screwed naxx will be without a change


How about they don't do shit, and you stop raidlogging and start farming some gold?
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Re: Black Lotus in DM

by varth » Mon Nov 23, 2015 8:03 pm

Pulsar wrote:
varth wrote:I don't really care how they do it, but nost needs to find some way to inject 200% more black lotus per week onto the server or we will be in deep trouble once aq40 comes out. A lot of guilds will want to flask on that instance (especially titans on Cthun) and it will cause prices to spike even further. Lets not even begin to talk about how screwed naxx will be without a change


How about they don't do shit, and you stop raidlogging and start farming some gold?


I have over 400g liquid, and 4 flasks and 7 black lotus. Even for people like myself once Naxx hits we will be in trouble, you absolutely HAVE to flask in naxx, so that's 2 flasks a week minimum. Prices will most definitely be higher than now if nothing is done, so a conservative estimate is 300g a week (if you only raid 2x a week and only flask once a day). If you bothered to educate yourself and actually read up on this subject before posting like an idiot you would know that not enough Black Lotus spawns a day to keep even just tanks flasked for naxx due to our high population.

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Re: Black Lotus in DM

by Guybrush » Mon Nov 23, 2015 8:07 pm

Pulsar wrote:How about they don't do shit, and you stop raidlogging and start farming some gold?

Translation: I exploited the nodes when they were static and now I got tons to sell, buy my lotuses guys.

Anyway, to recap the thread in case the GMs are actually interested:

DM Arena lotus: Tons of evidence saying it should spawn when Mushgog is around and it seems to be implemented on Nost, hard to test since its such a rare event.

DM East common nodes: Video evidence of Dreamfoil, Gromsblood and Ghost Mushroom in multiple spawns inside the DME garden. Nothing on Nost.

DM East black lotus: Only one piece of evidence from a wowhead comment, could be a particulary rare spawn. Inconclusive.
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Re: Black Lotus in DM

by Pulsar » Mon Nov 23, 2015 8:23 pm

varth wrote:
I have over 400g liquid, and 4 flasks and 7 black lotus. Even for people like myself once Naxx hits we will be in trouble, you absolutely HAVE to flask in naxx, so that's 2 flasks a week minimum. Prices will most definitely be higher than now if nothing is done, so a conservative estimate is 300g a week (if you only raid 2x a week and only flask once a day). If you bothered to educate yourself and actually read up on this subject before posting like an idiot you would know that not enough Black Lotus spawns a day to keep even just tanks flasked for naxx due to our high population.

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I reckon I know more about this than you do, since I actually spend my time herbing them, the numbers are pulled out of someones ass, since you get approximately 80 bl per day not including the crashes which reset the herb nodes. Everyone who's anyone is already stacking flasks and lotuses, the fact that you can't see that many on ah just means people don't bother selling them to you.

And of course not every xxkungen will have a sound supply of flasks, because of how valuable they are, but then again, what does he even need them for?

Edit: I'd like to think I'm partly responsible for the bl static spawn fix.
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Re: Black Lotus in DM

by Dreez » Mon Nov 23, 2015 8:37 pm

Pulsar wrote:80 bl per day not including the crashes which reset the herb nodes.


which they shouldn't just btw.
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Re: Black Lotus in DM

by varth » Mon Nov 23, 2015 9:44 pm

So 80 BL per day, so that covers ONE GUILDS flasks for a week in naxx. Something tells me there will be more than 7 guilds trying to progress through naxx on nost.

TLDR you are living in autism dream world if you think 80 BL a day is enough for a server with ~8000 people.
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Re: Black Lotus in DM

by Dreez » Mon Nov 23, 2015 9:48 pm

would be interesting to see statistics about how many black lotus exist right now
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Re: Black Lotus in DM

by Pulsar » Mon Nov 23, 2015 10:02 pm

varth wrote:So 80 BL per day, so that covers ONE GUILDS flasks for a week in naxx. Something tells me there will be more than 7 guilds trying to progress through naxx on nost.

TLDR you are living in autism dream world if you think 80 BL a day is enough for a server with ~8000 people.


You obviously don't understand that people were busy farming bl for half a year, and naxx is at least 1 year away from now. Most of the guilds just used 1 flask each for the first bwl run, and might use like one more if they're speedrunning, so you tell me how many flasks do you think a competitive guild might have?

In short, I fully understand that from a perspective of a pvp player in a 3 man guild, flask prices seem like a big problem, but I guess that's just how vanilla is.
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Re: Black Lotus in DM

by Dreez » Mon Nov 23, 2015 10:10 pm

Pulsar wrote:and naxx is at least 1 year away from now

https://en.nostalrius.org/timeline
not really
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Re: Black Lotus in DM

by Pulsar » Mon Nov 23, 2015 10:32 pm

Dreez wrote:
Pulsar wrote:and naxx is at least 1 year away from now

https://en.nostalrius.org/timeline
not really


No offense, but you know.

On topic now, I'm fully up for adding the dm spawn, and hope it will be fixed soon.
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