Nostalrius Online Players Scam? 2.0

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Re: Nostalrius Online Players Scam? 2.0

by Stone » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:14 am

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Re: Nostalrius Online Players Scam? 2.0

by Mimma » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:16 am

Stone wrote:The video shows that on "/who" list there are 260 people online in Elwynn Forest when for real there are 112.


Dude? We heard you already. If you don't like the server just leave - ok?
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Re: Nostalrius Online Players Scam? 2.0

by Stone » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:18 am

Mimma wrote:
Stone wrote:The video shows that on "/who" list there are 260 people online in Elwynn Forest when for real there are 112.


Dude? We heard you already. If you don't like the server just leave - ok?


Feenix/Molten syndrome? If I want to "complain" and/or show the truth to the people I will do so. Where did I say I don't like the server? I'm not sure if I should like or not yet. I just want to know the truth about it, that's not a big deal.
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Re: Nostalrius Online Players Scam? 2.0

by Uro » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:21 am

lik I said nost is fake and gey now leav plox hatrs bin hatin since the massive drop on twinstars playrbase. none vill beliv u by the way so take off that tin foil hat an go outside kkthxbai
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Re: Nostalrius Online Players Scam? 2.0

by Ivina » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:24 am

Stone, do you realize that there is no proof at all in that video?

First, as many said, your game experience actually makes you think there are something like 5k players. So, why would a guy spend so much time in order to proof there is a scam? Only someone that WANT to arm Nostalrius reputation would do so.
From that point, how can you trust the figures he will display in his video are true? If you don't actually do the test yourself, and review his code yourself, there is no point in linking the video as a proof.

Then, and more seriously, let's examine his "method".

He wants to show that there is a difference when you:
1) sum up the result of /who in the area for each level.
2) scan players 100y around 11 of his toons.
Then, he says that 1) gave ~500 and 2) gave ~250. Thus it is the proof that 1) is a fake from Nostalrius.

Let's examine 2)
Like he said himself in his descriptions, he used 11 characters, covering 100y radius areas. How the fuck can you cover 100% of an area with 11 characters? 100y is not as much as it seems, go and try in game by comparing to your 30y spell range. His method only allows him to cover something like 20% of the area. Assuming he covers most frequented zones, there really is nothing surprising he still missed 40-50% of the players.
He shows were his characters are, on the map, and you clearly see that, except 2 first characters, they are more spaced than ~200 yards. Go ingame, use your 30y spell range as unit, and you will see it yourself!

About 1)
He affirms 1) is fake.
It would mean that is you /who players in a zone, at a given level, half of them don't exist.

The point is, when I look for people for a dungeon, I generally use this method to wisp players one after another. I did this on many servers and on retail. There is a part of people who will never answer back, because they are afk, or beacause they don't speak english (especilly on eng private servers).
Thus, if half of players are fake, you will never get an answer from ~75% of them!
It is so easy to try it on Nostalrius that I actually did it!
I was in darkshore and selected all players at level 15. There were 11 results. I wrote them all, and after 2 trials, 9 out of 11 answered me. One disconnected in the meantime. The last one did not answered.
Here is the screen shot in attachment.

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Re: Nostalrius Online Players Scam? 2.0

by bellerophon » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:25 am

I think you need to explain your methodology better if you're to convince the skeptics. How long did you do the scanning, and do they see through line of sight obstructions? Why should we expect scanning those 11 locations to yield something close to the total number of players in the zone? Have you performed this on a "control" server, and found that the number in /who matches the number scanned?

Edit: Ivina beat me to pointing some of these out.
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Re: Nostalrius Online Players Scam? 2.0

by Uro » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:28 am

wai so serius guys? nost is fake and gey. Now lemme fak dis 10 allys outside rfd with mi new axe !
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Re: Nostalrius Online Players Scam? 2.0

by tghgost » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:29 am

This topic has nothing to do with "I saw a lot of people", because everybody has. The topic is about being lied to by the staff and awaiting their response to the situation. Who list has fake entries, as can be seen in the video, but most will close their eyes and deny it for the sake of the server. Real population is 2k+, which is still good for vanilla, but the actual number or your personal experiences have nothing to do with this topic.
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Re: Nostalrius Online Players Scam? 2.0

by chocochip95 » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:34 am

Are we really doing this again..?
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Re: Nostalrius Online Players Scam? 2.0

by Uro » Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:37 am

No cuz we all agreed nost is fake n gey now
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