:( All Loot= Hunter Lootz

[norm964bgb]

Hunters are almost completely useless in end game... let them have their ninja looting.

why are they useless endgame?

It's just that they do less damage than Warlocks/Mages, therefore people tend to take less hunter along. But you still need 4 hunters in a raid for tranquilizing shot. Without the enrageremoval on bosses they are not doable. In general raids will take the minimum amount needed to keep a fluent tranq shot rotation without having all hunters tranq shot on CD.

They arent useless at all. They have important tasks to do like kiting Razorgore adds or Drakkisath in order to kill his bodyguards. But they do subpar damage in comparison to other DPS classes. And it gets worse in AQ/Naxx because WL and mages scale tremendously with gear. Better than hunter or warriors.
But hunters are a fun class so dont worry. If you are good, you will be taken along!
It's just not as easy as being Warlock.

And the flavor of hunters is much higher. Best friend is pet, you roam freely around, hunting stuff down with Aspect of Cheetah, track humanoids to gank easily. Be OP while leveling. Taking on multiple targets with proper Feign Death trapping.

Dont worry. keep playing your hunter,

[Antility]

Hunters are almost completely useless in end game... let them have their ninja looting.

why are they useless endgame?

It's just that they do less damage than Warlocks/Mages, therefore people tend to take less hunter along. But you still need 4 hunters in a raid for tranquilizing shot. Without the enrageremoval on bosses they are not doable. In general raids will take the minimum amount needed to keep a fluent tranq shot rotation without having all hunters tranq shot on CD.

They arent useless at all. They have important tasks to do like kiting Razorgore adds or Drakkisath in order to kill his bodyguards. But they do subpar damage in comparison to other DPS classes. And it gets worse in AQ/Naxx because WL and mages scale tremendously with gear. Better than hunter or warriors.
But hunters are a fun class so dont worry. If you are good, you will be taken along!
It's just not as easy as being Warlock.

And the flavor of hunters is much higher. Best friend is pet, you roam freely around, hunting stuff down with Aspect of Cheetah, track humanoids to gank easily. Be OP while leveling. Taking on multiple targets with proper Feign Death trapping.

Dont worry. keep playing your hunter,

okie ty men

[riq and snog]

Upgrade is upgrade... complaining about lvling loot... r u bored?
I for myself used to friendly ask in grp before rolling need. Dont give up on hunters

[mrmr]

It's just that they do less damage than Warlocks/Mages, therefore people tend to take less hunter along. But you still need 4 hunters in a raid for tranquilizing shot. Without the enrageremoval on bosses they are not doable. In general raids will take the minimum amount needed to keep a fluent tranq shot rotation without having all hunters tranq shot on CD.

They arent useless at all. They have important tasks to do like kiting Razorgore adds or Drakkisath in order to kill his bodyguards. But they do subpar damage in comparison to other DPS classes. And it gets worse in AQ/Naxx because WL and mages scale tremendously with gear. Better than hunter or warriors.
But hunters are a fun class so dont worry. If you are good, you will be taken along!
It's just not as easy as being Warlock.

And the flavor of hunters is much higher. Best friend is pet, you roam freely around, hunting stuff down with Aspect of Cheetah, track humanoids to gank easily. Be OP while leveling. Taking on multiple targets with proper Feign Death trapping.

Dont worry. keep playing your hunter,

Clearly you are clueless.
Hunters will crush all mages till Rolling Ignites.
Rolling Ignites starts with AQ.

Your idea is true only on retarded non-working pserver.

Don't spread bullshits like this one, cause this is a REAL bullshit.

NOTE:
Remember that in vanilla there's no AP flask, only SP.
Also, almost all AP buffs are not working for ranged attacks.
This is the prime reason cause hunters will have it hard on DPS meters during Naxx.

[NicolasMage]

That just means hunters can use the titan flask for 1.2k extra health, reducing the chance that they'll die to AoE or dot abilities. You could also use the SP flask to increase your spell damage (well, just arcane shot, I think?), but that's just not worth it.

Or you can cheap out and not use a flask at all, saving you a buttload of money.
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Hunters aren't useless, every class has their role in a raid, even if it is just one spec (Go home Enhancement shamans, and come back with a healing spec)

[Ark]

While I was grinding Bael-dun mobs in the southern barrens. You sent an invite over and over for help with the quest untill I obliged. I helped you with a few mobs and the ring dropped, my 2nd ring slot was empty and it was an upgrade that will sustain my grind for a longer period.

+Int and +Stam was a welcomed upgrade.

Ill emphasize the original post was not meant to directly call you out or I would have just called you out.
The incident over a lvling green is not important.

The post was to bring up a larger issue we had in vanilla 10 yrs ago . "All loot=Hunter loot" but unlike 10 years ago we now have concrete knowledge on stat weights and their priorities.

No one is arguing that int/stam can be used by hunters albeit their bottom 2 stats.
And this isn't a witch hunt against all hunters...they are a very valuable class.

The real conversation is about greed and the logic "some" hunters use to roll on every item (the other hunter in our group rolled greed not need btw and he had 0 ring slots filled).

Pretty much as a hunter you can try to justify almost any item in the game as "hunter loot" sans Strength.

[Blackadder]

I try not to group with hunters if it can be helped. I've had mostly bad experiences with them. They tend to loot things that they have no business looting.

Just my 2 cents.

I think a better complaint could be that hunters sometimes forget their pet when jumping down, so their pet pulls half the dungeon... Or they multishot your sheep. or even worse, they multishot into that 2nd group of orcs just at the corner.....

these are things hunters have to learn.. and when they have learned they are a great asset to any group, being very powerful and versatile. Give them a chance. loot problems are rare and easily avoided. I think any established hunter knows how loot etiquette works, it is just little kids and other newbies that ninja and you find those in ANY class........