Server population increased by 5k in 1.5 hours

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Re: Server population increased by 5k in 1.5 hours

by Doofoos » Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:53 am

Zeit wrote:1. The point of a factioned MMORPG is working together with you faction. This is EXTREMELY important in events such as PvP.

1. You already working with them, by playing on bgs\instances\auction, without speaking or not.
2. I bet by "working" you means "communicate", and you dont need to communicate together with ALL members of your faction. There is almost 0 important events which requires from you such things. Stop making Lineage 2 \ UO from WoW.
Zeit wrote:Having Little Xiao AFK at stables is extremely counter productive to this goal. Don't join PvP if you aren't going to work together as a team. Ain't cool. You wanna close yourself off in your own little clique? Go play retail.

And having Little "insertanycountrybasednamehere" AFK at stables is more productive? lol. AFKing and lacking of teamplay is not bound to country.

Zeit wrote:The issue isn't that they're Chinese. The issue is that they refuse to communicate with the rest of us when it matters, and theres such an abundance of them. Say, if these were Russians, or Brazilians, or anybody else who came to the server and acted en masse like they have, the response would be exactly the same.

They are NOT refusing to communicate, they are lacking of english language skill, and thats is a complete different things.

Zeit wrote:3. Yes, the draw distance and latency IS as bad as claimed. Trying to level my paladin in Elwynn then suddenly walking into judgement range and seeing 3 Kolbold's who are suddenly smashing my face in for 30 damage a fireball, is not cool.

Why is that here again? Draw distance is reduced because of high online numbers, not because of high-chinese-players-online.

Zeit wrote:English, english, and english. Little Xiao and friends are already breaking an allegedly important rule.

How? Did you see any hieroglyphs in the chat?! Having " " in the chat is not forbidden!


Stereotypes, again. Why are you ppl so narrow-minded?

Zeit wrote:something definitely needs to be done about Team China and their hordes of players on 20 hour grind sessions.

What the fk do you care about others play sessions lol, go and check PURE_US-EU_NOPEs playtime.

Zeit wrote:The point of a factioned MMORPG is to work together with other players.

What if i don't want to work with you? What if i have my own reasons to play here, like reading quests, exploring the lore, playing for my own fun.
Your examples of "working together" is inaccurate. Looks like you want to communicate with every player around you, and expect them to communicate with you back, or they are apostates. When you are going outside, you are trying to speak with every human being you see in the streets?

And im saying again, yes there is a problems with communication on BGs or Instances, but other country-based accusations mentioned before in this topic is just stupid.
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Re: Server population increased by 5k in 1.5 hours

by Zeit » Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:59 am

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If you don't like the chinese "Excluding" you and "not talking to you" and "refusing to group" its time to grow a pair/quit the server

i wouldnt group with you either and i would most likely ignore you if u messaged me, are u gonna make a post on the forums crying about it?
get over ur xenophobia and stop bandwagon hating the chinese, especially considering the amount of the population they represent they are extremely harmless


According to you,
. boohoo, you have to group with the other 50% of the population


You mean to tell me that 50% of the servers population belongs to one nationality and one that doesnt even speak the servers required language? If that's the case, that's extremely significant. Being limited to playing with only half my faction is pretty bad for a community based game.
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Re: Server population increased by 5k in 1.5 hours

by Zeit » Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:21 am

Doofoos wrote:
Zeit wrote:1. The point of a factioned MMORPG is working together with you faction. This is EXTREMELY important in events such as PvP.

1. You already working with them, by playing on bgs\instances\auction, without speaking or not.
2. I bet by "working" you means "communicate", and you dont need to communicate together with ALL members of your faction. There is almost 0 important events which requires from you such things. Stop making Lineage 2 \ UO from WoW.
Zeit wrote:Having Little Xiao AFK at stables is extremely counter productive to this goal. Don't join PvP if you aren't going to work together as a team. Ain't cool. You wanna close yourself off in your own little clique? Go play retail.

And having Little "insertanycountrybasednamehere" AFK at stables is more productive? lol. AFKing and lacking of teamplay is not bound to country.

Zeit wrote:The issue isn't that they're Chinese. The issue is that they refuse to communicate with the rest of us when it matters, and theres such an abundance of them. Say, if these were Russians, or Brazilians, or anybody else who came to the server and acted en masse like they have, the response would be exactly the same.

They are NOT refusing to communicate, they are lacking of english language skill, and thats is a complete different things.

Zeit wrote:3. Yes, the draw distance and latency IS as bad as claimed. Trying to level my paladin in Elwynn then suddenly walking into judgement range and seeing 3 Kolbold's who are suddenly smashing my face in for 30 damage a fireball, is not cool.

Why is that here again? Draw distance is reduced because of high online numbers, not because of high-chinese-players-online.

Zeit wrote:English, english, and english. Little Xiao and friends are already breaking an allegedly important rule.

How? Did you see any hieroglyphs in the chat?! Having " " in the chat is not forbidden!


Stereotypes, again. Why are you ppl so narrow-minded?

Zeit wrote:something definitely needs to be done about Team China and their hordes of players on 20 hour grind sessions.

What the fk do you care about others play sessions lol, go and check PURE_US-EU_NOPEs playtime.

Zeit wrote:The point of a factioned MMORPG is to work together with other players.

What if i don't want to work with you? What if i have my own reasons to play here, like reading quests, exploring the lore, playing for my own fun.
Your examples of "working together" is inaccurate. Looks like you want to communicate with every player around you, and expect them to communicate with you back, or they are apostates. When you are going outside, you are trying to speak with every human being you see in the streets?

And im saying again, yes there is a problems with communication on BGs or Instances, but other country-based accusations mentioned before in this topic is just stupid.



I see I'm really touching some sore nerves with some, and causing them to make extremely hollow counter points.

First off, no, I don't work together with any of those people because they don't communicate. For forming groups for instances, you need to verbally communicate. This isn't retail with its bogus queue based LFG system. See my last point.
I don't buy from anybody with the name Xiao or the like, I've already played though BC and Wrath with my servers economy getting decimated by the Susan Express and IGE.
How often do you actually see anybody that isn't a Xiao AFK in a battle ground? Exception, not the rule for both sides.
Considering I'm seeing quite a few Xiao's when the draw distance goes to hell, I think I can make a safe bet as to why.
The blanks are formed due to the fact we don't have Chinese character fonts installed to our clients. It's a relatively easy fix.
You mean 20 hours mining/herbing and controlling the auction house is acceptable? Okay you.
Then don't work with me, Zeit, the single player. Writing off one person out of thousands isn't that large of a deal. Writing off an entire community, thats sort of an issue.
Thats a seriously poor example. Joe Schmo walking down the street,I have no business speaking with, is no big deal. Joe Schmo my teammate, I expect to communicate with me. If im working on a project for a business, I expect open communication from all team members on said project. The same follows suit on a PvP match. Our goal is to win, our chances increase by communicating and coordinating, just like a business project.

Also, lets add this one other point. From as far as I can tell, one of the goals of Nostalrius is to build a whole community, not a segregated one.

Please. Try again.
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Re: Server population increased by 5k in 1.5 hours

by slipry » Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:22 am

terms like "required language" just show what a retard you are
having a designated language for "TRADE AND WORLD" does not make it a required language

besides "overpopulating the server" and farming the chinese are doing nothing wrong and u are just embarrassing urself by trying to get nostalrius to run a crusade on them or some retarded shit

they are improving the view distance everyday, nothing else they can/will/should do

not to mention, its not like the chinese dont join public groups period, ive personally done a ton of 5mans with people in the chinese guilds and there are lots of them that do speak english even if it is a bit broken(no more than any east europeans english tho)
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Re: Server population increased by 5k in 1.5 hours

by Doofoos » Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:37 am

If you are not working with them, why do you care lol. Create your own groups\premades, majority of players is and will be the english speaking. And if you are afraid that some Xiao will not communicate with you and afk, there is no guarantee that Joe Schmo will do all this things because you want him to do this.
And yes im seeing a lots of afk players on bgs, and no, they are not asian players. Maybe you're just unlucky, or focusing too much on a problem you think is important or annoying. For myself, im seeing a lot of asians around (our time zones are close enough), and they are playing the game the same way others do. I asked for water\portals countless times, and usually they respond with basic words if they dont have time or runes or something. I can recall only 2 or 3 times of total ignore for 10 months of my playing here, but same happened with non-asian players even more.
Again, yes, there is a problems with communication on BG\Instances, but that problems does not worth the topic attitude.
PS and thanks for a good laugh about "controlling the auction house" :D
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Re: Server population increased by 5k in 1.5 hours

by Bambam » Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:39 am

Imagine now from the point of view of a non-english speaking Chinese guy.

A lot of people are saying: "Get Chinese guys banned, they don't interact with people". :oops:

See my point?

While I'm being flamed for being French and living in France by ... US people. Not all of them hopefully, but ...

Should I make a ticket for harrasment each time or not ? The Chinese guy example i'm talking about could do the same thing. :x :x

Be careful with ToU please. :evil: It does work for everybody.

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Re: Server population increased by 5k in 1.5 hours

by iamkeene » Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:44 am

Not going to bother.
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Re: Server population increased by 5k in 1.5 hours

by Bazinga » Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:49 am

i still dont get the point of the allegedly "afking xiaos", just report them and if they are really afking they will get a warning and then a ban like everyone else too. that argument is just retarded.

and btw, ive never seen 40 people communicating in AV , wouldnt even work, there are just some crybabys complaining about turtling and some who call to the front, others just playing the game
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Re: Server population increased by 5k in 1.5 hours

by iamkeene » Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:49 am

Bambam wrote:Imagine now from the point of view of a non-english speaking Chinese guy.

A lot of people are saying: "Get Chinese guys banned, they don't interact with people". :oops:

See my point?

While I'm being flamed for being French and living in France by ... US people. Not all of them hopefully, but ...

Should I make a ticket for harrasment each time or not ? The Chinese guy example i'm talking about could do the same thing. :x :x

Be careful with ToU please. :evil: It does work for everybody.

Thank you


I'm not specifying nationalities. I'm specifying lack of communication in English. I cannot pvp, raid, or really even quest effectively with people who can't understand me, or who I can't understand.

People who speak English may want to be aware that there is a language barrier before they bother making a character here, so yes, I will post on the forums about it. It's not " crying", its "informing".

Besides, the lag, the draw distance. Bad. Basically, don't waste your time on the pvp realm. :)
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Re: Server population increased by 5k in 1.5 hours

by Bambam » Tue Jan 05, 2016 12:18 pm

Yeah there's lag and other issues. I just wanted to point this as well.

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