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Re: world chat

by ganjitsu » Tue Mar 10, 2015 5:57 pm

popezaphod wrote:People who use hate speech should be subject to Nostalrius's Terms of Use, which involves warnings, temporary bans, and permanent bans for repeat offenders. I understand that the devs have bigger fish to fry, but unpunished hate speech makes it look like Nostalrius approves of such language and views and gives a very bad impression to people signing onto the realm for the first time.

So grow the fuck up, people.


Here come the basement people talking their psychotic non-sense about "hate speech".

"Hate speech" is a DANGEROUS idea that everyone with a brain should be fighting with tooth and nail.
It is used by authorities to whitewash people's thoughts and words. It is an insidious enemy to freedom.
There is nothing wrong with having a general opinion about a group of people based on race, religion, or anything else.
Race and religion are complex traits of person, and there are myriad other traits that are associated with these other than "the color of a person's skin" or "what day they go to church".
It's absolutely fair to have an opinion on any of these traits and it's absolutely necessary that people to not face systematic discrimination for having or expressing a negative opinion on anything at all.

THERE MUST NEVER BE EXCEPTIONS TO THE RULE OF FREEDOM OF SPEECH, REGARDLESS OF THE FEELINGS OF SOME PEOPLE

Society in general believes that if they convince a majority of the population that "hate speech" is evil that they can justify silencing people who express themselves in this way, or DO WORSE TO THEM.

Everyone should realize that the freedom to express one's self is a prerequisite for the freedom to live one's life.

Any authority that tries to limit a person's speech has revealed itself to be evil. It destroys the freedom of the speaker and steals freedom from those hearing the speaker. The power to judge a speaker should ALWAYS lie with the listeners. Systematic judgement of self-expression steals power from the people and is an insidious threat to the freedom of all. It FORCES people to make up their minds about a thing. It is a GRIEVOUS INSULT to all. It is a statement that the people are too stupid or otherwise incapable of forming their own ideas and that they must be told what to do. It is a statement that what the people think does not matter and that for society to continue they must be told what to think.
This is a certain implication that society is acting against the people's interests.

In an example, if a person is expressing hatred of a certain race of people, the listeners will all judge the person. No authority need intervene. The immediate consequences are sufficient. If the hatred spreads it is justified.

Really what this is about is forcing everyone to get along as immigrants flood into European and American countries and as various people invent new sexualities and advertise them and any number of completely new phenomenon happening in society. It's about preventing people from speaking up about the effects of this. It's about demonizing nationalism and pride in one's native culture.
And above all it is about preventing anyone from stopping these phenomenon for as long as possible.

On this server, who cares if some one 'cusses out' another person in a whisper or group chat setting. This is the internet, not real life. Reading a message is not the same as someone yelling at you to your face. As for the same thing in a public channel, perhaps it should be limited. But you must draw the line and allow people to express their social and political beliefs. If that means they hate Jews, let them say it as long as they can give a sound reason.

Perhaps the server staff are less interested in supporting freedom for all than I am. But if they were wise they would take this opportunity that is given to them by being in a position to control this server to spread freedom, not destroy it. This is a better opportunity than the vast majority of people get to do good.
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Re: world chat

by azreal313 » Tue Mar 10, 2015 6:00 pm

Jace wrote:
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Jace wrote:Just be nice, don't spam or talk shit and I'm pretty sure you won't get kicked from the chat.


Clearly you haven't been in Alliance world chat, that shit is a mess.


Sorry to disappoint you but I have been on the alliance world chat and I'm not banned. If you don't spam or mess with the owner you are fine.


I was talking about people that SHOULD be banned, NOT getting banned. That is why I believe world chat should be owned by the staff and moderated as such, world chat got so bad that I straight up had to leave it and haven't gone back in since.
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Re: world chat

by OGTUCKER117 » Tue Mar 10, 2015 6:19 pm

ganjitsu wrote:
popezaphod wrote:People who use hate speech should be subject to Nostalrius's Terms of Use, which involves warnings, temporary bans, and permanent bans for repeat offenders. I understand that the devs have bigger fish to fry, but unpunished hate speech makes it look like Nostalrius approves of such language and views and gives a very bad impression to people signing onto the realm for the first time.

So grow the fuck up, people.


Here come the basement people talking their psychotic non-sense about "hate speech".

"Hate speech" is a DANGEROUS idea that everyone with a brain should be fighting with tooth and nail.
It is used by authorities to whitewash people's thoughts and words. It is an insidious enemy to freedom.
There is nothing wrong with having a general opinion about a group of people based on race, religion, or anything else.
Race and religion are complex traits of person, and there are myriad other traits that are associated with these other than "the color of a person's skin" or "what day they go to church".
It's absolutely fair to have an opinion on any of these traits and it's absolutely necessary that people to not face systematic discrimination for having or expressing a negative opinion on anything at all.

THERE MUST NEVER BE EXCEPTIONS TO THE RULE OF FREEDOM OF SPEECH, REGARDLESS OF THE FEELINGS OF SOME PEOPLE

Society in general believes that if they convince a majority of the population that "hate speech" is evil that they can justify silencing people who express themselves in this way, or DO WORSE TO THEM.

Everyone should realize that the freedom to express one's self is a prerequisite for the freedom to live one's life.

Any authority that tries to limit a person's speech has revealed itself to be evil. It destroys the freedom of the speaker and steals freedom from those hearing the speaker. The power to judge a speaker should ALWAYS lie with the listeners. Systematic judgement of self-expression steals power from the people and is an insidious threat to the freedom of all. It FORCES people to make up their minds about a thing. It is a GRIEVOUS INSULT to all. It is a statement that the people are too stupid or otherwise incapable of forming their own ideas and that they must be told what to do. It is a statement that what the people think does not matter and that for society to continue they must be told what to think.
This is a certain implication that society is acting against the people's interests.

In an example, if a person is expressing hatred of a certain race of people, the listeners will all judge the person. No authority need intervene. The immediate consequences are sufficient. If the hatred spreads it is justified.

Really what this is about is forcing everyone to get along as immigrants flood into European and American countries and as various people invent new sexualities and advertise them and any number of completely new phenomenon happening in society. It's about preventing people from speaking up about the effects of this. It's about demonizing nationalism and pride in one's native culture.
And above all it is about preventing anyone from stopping these phenomenon for as long as possible.

On this server, who cares if some one 'cusses out' another person in a whisper or group chat setting. This is the internet, not real life. Reading a message is not the same as someone yelling at you to your face. As for the same thing in a public channel, perhaps it should be limited. But you must draw the line and allow people to express their social and political beliefs. If that means they hate Jews, let them say it as long as they can give a sound reason.

Perhaps the server staff are less interested in supporting freedom for all than I am. But if they were wise they would take this opportunity that is given to them by being in a position to control this server to spread freedom, not destroy it. This is a better opportunity than the vast majority of people get to do good.

Your 100% right dude. I hate all these little fags who go around reporting and complaining because they got called a name
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Re: world chat

by Ark » Tue Mar 10, 2015 6:36 pm

OGTUCKER117 wrote:
Your 100% right dude. I hate all these little fags who go around reporting and complaining because they got called a name


Hows Ganjitsus ass taste OGtucker? You done sipping ur cum out of that sweet Orc ass....I'd love to go into a thread where you are not sucking each other's dicks daily.

See what I did there...that kinda talk doesn't promote a good community, it doesn't promote creative thinking, or educated arguments. Its vile and creates toxicity on our brand new server.

This is not America, EU, China or mother fucking Russia. Its an online video game forum. Not a platform for your freedom of hate speech crusade you 2 idiots are on.
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Re: world chat

by Rememberlme » Tue Mar 10, 2015 7:26 pm

I've been banned from WORLD chat by this user named OSIRUS. Im guessing hes a fat fuck sitting behind comp, geeking 24/7 considering hes lvl 60 already, but I havent done anything for him to ban me. I asked him to lend me some gold and he simply banned me from world...
THen I apologized and he ignored me...
THen i called him a fat fuck and he put me on ignore list...
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Re: world chat

by Rememberlme » Tue Mar 10, 2015 7:29 pm

Everyone is using WORLD to find groups
Im kinda left out now

How to rejoin a channel once you've been banned? Do I have to wait for OSirus to leave game and then another owner Will take its blace and Will have to unban me???
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Re: world chat

by ganjitsu » Tue Mar 10, 2015 8:30 pm

Ark wrote:
OGTUCKER117 wrote:
Your 100% right dude. I hate all these little fags who go around reporting and complaining because they got called a name


Hows Ganjitsus ass taste OGtucker? You done sipping ur cum out of that sweet Orc ass....I'd love to go into a thread where you are not sucking each other's dicks daily.

See what I did there...that kinda talk doesn't promote a good community, it doesn't promote creative thinking, or educated arguments. Its vile and creates toxicity on our brand new server.

This is not America, EU, China or mother fucking Russia. Its an online video game forum. Not a platform for your freedom of hate speech crusade you 2 idiots are on.


>that kinda talk doesn't promote a good community, it doesn't promote creative thinking, or educated arguments
PROVE IT

What you say might seem true on it's face, but how can you be sure?

After all "that kinda talk" is full of energy. It has a certain vigorous quality. I think that is what draws many people to it.

I believe that the more energy you put into what you are saying the more it will inspire people somehow, whatever the message.

In any case you can't deny it keeps things lively. And we're here to have a good time, no?

>Its vile and creates toxicity
LOL go back to your dungeon and masturbate furiously with no lubrication to the social justice warrior handbook. Brainwashed fool.
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Re: world chat

by NicolasMage » Tue Mar 10, 2015 8:47 pm

You guys have spent far to long trying to read philospohy from 4chan.
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Re: world chat

by ganjitsu » Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:06 pm

NicolasMage wrote:You guys have spent far to long trying to read philospohy from 4chan.


I think that's what a nerd with no perspective on life says when you completely destroy his argument
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Re: world chat

by popezaphod » Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:08 pm

Freedom of Speech (which you are not guaranteed on Nostalrius - read the Terms douchnozzle) does not mean freedom from repercussions from what you say. Go ahead and call people "faggots" but don't be surprised if you get kicked from parties or guides or maybe even the game itself.
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