Is this the same grizzly?

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Re: Is this the same grizzly?

by Hatson » Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:18 pm

Armilus wrote:Sounds like that Q-Gaming server was pretty terrible tbh


Every private has their handful of "those kind of people".
Nostalrius will be no different. And there for sure be troubles and drama around it. As there is on every private server ever made.

I never played on Q-Gaming tho' so I don't know any of these people mentioned. (Except Zzuk, I know him...)

Looking forward to playing with all the Hordies nonetheless, and will be curious to see if all this talk ends up holding anything up live on release. Only time will tell what comes out of it. ;)
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Re: Is this the same grizzly?

by Mav » Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:42 pm

ironsides wrote:
Zzuk wrote:And dont forget how they fucked up Scriptcraft.


Pretty heavy accusation from a guy that uploads films of himself teleport botting the UD strat crates with level 1s and sells the gold on ED.

Mirin that double backflip though.


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Re: Is this the same grizzly?

by Eso » Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:32 pm

Zzuk wrote:And dont forget how they fucked up Scriptcraft.


Stop being so fucking butthurt because I declined you lmao
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Re: Is this the same grizzly?

by Xaero » Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:44 pm

Zzuk wrote:And dont forget how they fucked up Scriptcraft.

LOL!

Says the scrub writing poverty level hacks/bots and then getting caught and banned by the most incompetent private server administration around: Feenix. The same scrub who then goes on to be a little drama spewing attention whore, posting videos of his l33t c0d1ng/b0tt1ng sk1llz anywhere and everywhere on the Internet where he thinks there may be the faintest glimmer of hope that ANYONE will watch and provide him the tiniest measure of attention.

Your blog is fucking pathetic, by the way. "Look, mom, I took a C# class and wrote a 'hack' for a decade old game! AM I RELEVANT YET? AM I AN ELITE HACKER GOD YET? DO YOU LOVE ME YET?!"

Oh, and this is also the guy who wrote an addon that allows you to fake whisper conversations between yourself and another player for the purposes of screenshotting it and using it to try to get innocent people banned. Which Feenix's anticheat was detecting and autobanning for almost immediately after he released it. Because he's so pro.

Ladies and gentleman, if you want a perfect example of the kind of total shitlord scumbag who will do everything in his power to ruin a private server community, it's not GRIZZLY. It's Zzuk.

Please kill yourself.
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Re: Is this the same grizzly?

by supanice » Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:50 pm

keyl wrote:This guy was in the guild, knew all the circumstances, was also a GM, and didn't just read a lot of internet stories.

"I was there too." Indeed you were. Petulant child.

In the end, all roads lead to <GRIZZLY>, and at the crossroads is Q-Gaming's crucifixion.


So your defense is to accuse me of not being there and just reading stories? I was personally whispered by grizzly members offering gold for $$ shortly before they duped the server into destruction. One thing about the private server community is that a lot of people go server to server, and you will find quite a few people that were on q gaming will end up on nost.

I wasn't on scriptcraft but it's pretty funny seeing grizzly members use the "well other people were doing it too" defense.

The only hope this server has is the gms put the effort in to catch you guys and permaban instantly, not warning like on q gaming.
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Re: Is this the same grizzly?

by Zach » Thu Feb 12, 2015 8:41 pm

supanice wrote:
keyl wrote:This guy was in the guild, knew all the circumstances, was also a GM, and didn't just read a lot of internet stories.

"I was there too." Indeed you were. Petulant child.

In the end, all roads lead to <GRIZZLY>, and at the crossroads is Q-Gaming's crucifixion.


So your defense is to accuse me of not being there and just reading stories? I was personally whispered by grizzly members offering gold for $$ shortly before they duped the server into destruction. One thing about the private server community is that a lot of people go server to server, and you will find quite a few people that were on q gaming will end up on nost.

I wasn't on scriptcraft but it's pretty funny seeing grizzly members use the "well other people were doing it too" defense.

The only hope this server has is the gms put the effort in to catch you guys and permaban instantly, not warning like on q gaming.

The hope is that this server isn't bugged to shit and has hacking protection unlike q-gaming. Everyone hacked/duped on qgaming because they were able to without punishment. The server was shit, anything anyone did there is irrelevant.
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Re: Is this the same grizzly?

by Windi » Thu Feb 12, 2015 8:47 pm

@supanice

1) Knowing the people of Grizzly, I severely doubt anyone would sell gold, regardless of how they obtained it, just because they hate dealing with people outside of the guild.

2) Scriptcraft had nothing to do with hacking or dupping, get your own stories straight. At no point was Grizzly ever said to do anything of malice on Scriptcraft other than quit, and them quitting "destroyed" the server cause there was no raiding guild left.

3) I dont see anyone saying "Well other people were doing it too". Im pretty sure they are saying. "Other people were doing it." There is no 'too' or 'also' mentioned. There are people who have openly admitted publicly decimating Q gaming (That's the server you meant to talk about in this sentence by the way) and not one of them was ever in Grizzly.

Lastly, in general, most of the stories that go around 4chan and other server sites are made by people who dislike Grizzly in the first place. Whether or not any of the stories are true, those people would post them just because its the internet and they are allowed to. Then a cycle of rumors and hearsay spreads. So every time Grizzly appears on a new server, it gets worse. Not because the events from 2 years ago changed, but because everyone takes it one step further. They exaggerate more. Grizzly has taken the blame for a lot of poor choices by Admins and Dev teams in the past, mostly because of their lightning rod personalities, and that's fine. They actually find it funny in many ways. They take all the hate and drama and use it as motivation to make people like yourself even more mad, when they kill bosses faster than your guild.

So continue to post things that you read or were told to you by someone else, and fire up the population of the server to be Anti-Grizzly. In reality you are just doing them a favor. They get tons of talk about how many kills they have had on multiple servers, and they get to recruit new players that dont care about previous drama. They get fired up cause people are mad about games. AND they get to laugh at all these dumb posts every night when they get home from work and are drinking a beer.

I, for one, dont intent on playing here. I wish all guilds the best. I think the competition for progression raid kills would be less fun without Grizzly participating, and if you are in a guild that is looking to take a shot at server firsts, you would want Grizzly to be around to compete with. They are a good group to race against.

But as someone who dislikes Grizzly, I would honestly sit back and think before your next post. Are you actually helping Grizzly? Cause you might not like the answer.
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Re: Is this the same grizzly?

by Zach » Thu Feb 12, 2015 8:48 pm

supanice wrote:
keyl wrote:This guy was in the guild, knew all the circumstances, was also a GM, and didn't just read a lot of internet stories.

"I was there too." Indeed you were. Petulant child.

In the end, all roads lead to <GRIZZLY>, and at the crossroads is Q-Gaming's crucifixion.


So your defense is to accuse me of not being there and just reading stories? I was personally whispered by grizzly members offering gold for $$ shortly before they duped the server into destruction. One thing about the private server community is that a lot of people go server to server, and you will find quite a few people that were on q gaming will end up on nost.

I wasn't on scriptcraft but it's pretty funny seeing grizzly members use the "well other people were doing it too" defense.

The only hope this server has is the gms put the effort in to catch you guys and permaban instantly, not warning like on q gaming.

The only hope is that the server isn't bugged to shit and has hack protection unlike q-gaming. Everyone hacked/duped because the server was fucked.
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Re: Is this the same grizzly?

by Kevibear » Thu Feb 12, 2015 8:50 pm

Has anyone ever considered that the reason QG failed was because everyone was so focused on finding evidence of <GRIZZLY> cheating that they failed to scrutinize the other 90% of the server and that if this baseless witch hunt continues is going to happen again?
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Re: Is this the same grizzly?

by Zach » Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:02 pm

Kevibear wrote:Has anyone ever considered that the reason QG failed was because everyone was so focused on finding evidence of <GRIZZLY> cheating that they failed to scrutinize the other 90% of the server and that if this baseless witch hunt continues is going to happen again?


Has anyone ever considered the reason that QG failed was because there was no hacking protection and bosses were bugged to shit?
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