Bugged Chromaggus down! GZ NOPE

[Psychic]

Daggers > Swords.

poison damage.

[sidesprang]

[Etrigan]

We were exploiting. We happened by it, wiped down, ticketted a GM and asked what we were supposed to do. The GM can verify such a conversation taking place with me, around 11 PM.

Interesting then why did you make another attempt and intentionally exploit the bug a second time??
http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Fight ... 07&Fight=8

I'm thinking you stopped because you never got the boss below 50%, and are really just here to be a huge bitter baby. I'll leave that up for interpretation by the audience.

edit lol nice edit

We made several attempts. We didn't even know the fight was bugged when we got there, hence us having flasks on in the first place.

We already downed Chromaggus last week, with acid and timelapse. This week he had frost and fire. Needless to say, easiest combo ever and it should've been a pushover. It was absolutely not.

I am a bitter baby, without a doubt. I like fair play and I firmly believe the rules should apply to everyone, even if their guild tag happens to be <NOPE>.

Not sure what you're trying to say here mate, are you asking for <Brilliance> to get banned after admitting to knowingly exploiting? That's what it reads with your fair play argument but that would seem silly.

[Monkeynews]

if the players who willingly abused this bug don´t get banned for this i seriously don´t know anymore

spellpower enchant first mc,best possible loot first bwl,monkeynews streaming his exploiting 12 hours a day without getting banned while others got permabanned for mining less than 10 arcane crystals and now this

something has been fishy with that guild for a long time now and if they don´t get punished now it´s pretty obvious that there is some favoritism involved. or even a gm inside the guild

i hope the nost staffs thinks carefully about how they handle this

PJSalt.

You forgot the part where I got banned twice already, son.

[Aklol]

would like to congratulate my friends in NOPE for taking over our reigns (GRIZZLY) as the server exploiters, GMs, and hackers alike. enjoy the ride

[Thefilth]

Chromaggus^2 was downed by NOPE, world first, within just a handful of attempts.

It goes without saying that this is quite a feat and cause for celebration. That's really impressive. Especially considering nobody else is capable of doing it and the majority will not even continue to try.

Here's the log of their kill for anyone interested.
http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Fight ... 24&Fight=9
As you may notice, they've got some truely outstanding performances. Namely a 820 HPS druid and 1367 DPS rogue. Ofcourse the entire team is responsible for this great victory, but these two deserve recognition for this great achievement.

In other related news Ahtia is well on the way to obtaining the esteemed Thunderfury. Huge congratulations and best of luck obtaining the rest of it.

Oh and since I didn't congratulate you at the time, I suppose I should add that now too. Congratulations on serverfirst weapon healing and spell power enchants. You obtained them both within a week of them being on the loottable, correct? Congratulations and good for you and your faction.

We were stuck at Chromaggus aswell and noticed how bugged he was, I don't think anyone can blame them as the problem is the script. It's not like you have the option to choose whether you turn drakonid or just get buffed.

The fight was so horribly bugged that the end justifies the means imo.

Forgive me if I'm a little OCD about rules, but:
"D - Last warning.: A last warning is given before a permanent ban. This sanction is applied in case of multiple violations of the rules, or after multiple account interruptions, as well as any of the following:

Casinos;
Multiboxing;
Abuse of in-game bugs;
Any attempt to bribe a staff member;
Organized killing for farming rank and/or honor.

E - Permanent ban.: Most serious sanction. Permanent bans are rare but definitive. This sanction is applied in case of multiple violations of the rules, or after multiple account interruption, as well as any of the following:

Examples:

Scamming.
COD Scamming;
Hacking;
Using any botting program;
Abuse of major in-game bugs;"

We all know they are strict with their policies and players have been banned for anything from clicking the AV battlemaster with LazyPig on while in a raid of 40 players to mining in Silithus caves.

This could just be my opinion, but I feel that when you go through the efforts of ensuring that your tank gets converted early enough to cause enough threat for dpsers to get converted and dps without fear of overaggroing (maybe even throw in a healer or two to be completely safe at all times), all done by carefully not dispelling until the subject achieved 5 debuffs on a fight that (under normal circumstances) specifically requires you to avoid such a thing, and then scatter shotting them; then you are most definately abusing in-game bugs. As to if it's consider a major in-game bug or not, I don't know. Mining the wrong veins was major, if you can deduct that from the permanent ban that was given.

[TheBigTwig]

PJSalt.

You forgot the part where I got banned twice already, son.

Cool story bro

[Filitz]

would like to congratulate my friends in NOPE for taking over our reigns (GRIZZLY) as the server exploiters, GMs, and hackers alike. enjoy the ride

thanks mate!

[Datruth]

Lets be real here. Did NOPE exploit Chromaggus? For sure, no way to have killed it previous to the hotfix without exploiting the Mind controll. Should it have any reprecussions? I think it would be incredibly retarded to reprimand them for trying to kill the encounter since it was extremely bugged.

We contemplated doing the same thing in Coalition as we got chromag to 3% in the first try, but opted to not take advantage of the MC since we were afraid of getting banned.

Nostalrius have been pretty strict in their handling of bug exploiting in every other case. I'm not arguing for or against that approach, all I'm saying is that it's an established fact at this point. A fact NOPE players should be experienced enough to have noticed by now.
If Nostalrius doesn't handle this situation in a similar manner as in the past, then people will come running with their torches and pitchforks (more than they already are).

It's pretty much a lose/lose situation for nost, but it should still be an easy call.

[Plask]

We were exploiting. We happened by it, wiped down, ticketted a GM and asked what we were supposed to do. The GM can verify such a conversation taking place with me, around 11 PM.

Interesting then why did you make another attempt and intentionally exploit the bug a second time??
http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Fight ... 07&Fight=8

I'm thinking you stopped because you never got the boss below 50%, and are really just here to be a huge bitter baby. I'll leave that up for interpretation by the audience.

edit lol nice edit

We made several attempts. We didn't even know the fight was bugged when we got there, hence us having flasks on in the first place.

We already downed Chromaggus last week, with acid and timelapse. This week he had frost and fire. Needless to say, easiest combo ever and it should've been a pushover. It was absolutely not.

I am a bitter baby, without a doubt. I like fair play and I firmly believe the rules should apply to everyone, even if their guild tag happens to be <NOPE>.

Not sure what you're trying to say here mate, are you asking for <Brilliance> to get banned after admitting to knowingly exploiting? That's what it reads with your fair play argument but that would seem silly.

Well, he said they didn't knowingly do it. So why are you drawing the conclusion they did? Most guilds gave up after making tickets or doing 1-2 tries, which is why this thread exists pretty much. I wouldn't mind doing more tries myself, as I was afraid we would miss this weeks Nefarian and Chromaggus loot. Honestly though, we all have to do another raid anyways this reset so whats the fuss (GMs can u please restore sands ;D ).