Tanks that expect BOEs, reserved loot.

[gangstanigga]

hpriest can farm dme way faster yo, stop lying to all those rank2 60 wars in full valors.

[St0rfan]

Hello boys and girls Morian here to provide insightful translations to the butt damaged individuals of this server. you may have seen my Translation works in the following link
https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=19637
These past translations were back when the server was younger than it is today and those problems don't necessarily reflect current events, as with all community problems some of these go away as a fad or become ingrained in our community permanently until it is deemed industrial and bannable by nostalrius devs/staff. with that being said this practice you all are crying/defending on about could be here today gone tomorrow

Now because the ass damage is so strong in this thread I will do two general Translations encompassing the major Opinions voiced so far.

Opinion Group A- In summary this group is in disagreement that the range of tanks pre-bis geared to raid geared asking for compensation other than the chance of rolling greed on blues and greens and earning them like everyone else in the instance does, they feel these tanks are in bad manner for asking.

-Translation "I want a tank that I know will reduce if not make my repair bill non existant due to their high probability to carry me for all my pre-bis gear because I am special and everything should be easy for me. I'm impatient and don't want to spend more than 30 minutes looking for a "free" not so geared tank that can potentially lead to many wipes and me not attaining the loot I am seeking at all. But I will begrudgingly look for the "free" tank because I am to selfish to spend a few gold that I as a DPS can farm up in less time than it would take for me to bitch and moan. so I want it done now done quickly because I'm a retail baby who is still used to LFG queues popping and catering to me.

Opinion Group B- In summary this group is more than likely the raid geared tank/Pre-bis geared tank group. The opinion from this group is voiced generally as; It's difficult to farm as prot, my role is in high demand because of such short supply learn 2 basic economics please. We dindu nuffins don't like it don't join just like don't join reserve runs if you don't like it.

-Translation "We're fucking to lazy to make a mage alt and farm DM:E and we really don't give a shit about your crying. In fact we are only here because we get rock hard that you're complaining at all, the negative attention about us caters to our already blatant narcissism and that you can do nothing about it makes it all that much better. So enjoy waiting 1 hour for a tank then disbanding the group in frustration from not finding one. We get off on that shit when we read your ads for 1 hour straight in world because you're all tightwad goyims.

TL;DR
human beings are selfish, probably always will be too

That was actually a rather accurate description of the extremes of both sides.

[Guanyin]

hpriest can farm dme way faster yo, stop lying to all those rank2 60 wars in full valors.

This is incorrect, for two reasons.

1. I've seen posts about mages making their 5 dungeons in 20 min. I do my 5 dungeons in 40. Even if the mage time is a bit of, mages do their 5 dungeons faster.

2. In reality, you dont do 5 dungeons and are done, you do more. 5 dungeons per hour is the speed of all classes doing lashers i DM:E.

[Alexpulos]

I love upsetting tanks... I usually put out their WTB tank for a particular instance and get bombarded with tells. I take the person who wants the most and have them fly and run to the instance. When they arrive i burst their entitled bubble with. I was just fucking with you. Do you want to tank this or not? They nerd rage and leave. Its hilarious. I suggest you try this to teach these douche-bags a lesson in manners =p

[Jurary]

I love upsetting tanks... I usually put out their WTB tank for a particular instance and get bombarded with tells. I take the person who wants the most and have them fly and run to the instance. When they arrive i burst their entitled bubble with. I was just fucking with you. Do you want to tank this or not? They nerd rage and leave. Its hilarious. I suggest you try this to teach these douche-bags a lesson in manners =p

i need to try this

[St0rfan]

I love upsetting tanks... I usually put out their WTB tank for a particular instance and get bombarded with tells. I take the person who wants the most and have them fly and run to the instance. When they arrive i burst their entitled bubble with. I was just fucking with you. Do you want to tank this or not? They nerd rage and leave. Its hilarious. I suggest you try this to teach these douche-bags a lesson in manners =p

Do you also expect all crafts, enchants and other services to be provided to you for free?

[Undertanker]

Funny that farming as prot is hard so we have to charge is the norm dps view point.

I can farm fine without charging, and with more gold per hour. I am smart enough to only share my tactics with a few guild healers and tanks.

Though I enjoy doing 5 mans, and do about 15+ a week for guildies, I still charge when my services are requeated. I do not advertise.

Why? If I did not charge, I am hurting myself in terms of keeping my raid consumables stacked, and growth of guildies crafting, as I contribute where and when I can.

I have RL responsibilities, wife, young kids, full time job, and invest time with friends and sports.

If you are not a guild member, you need gear, I can help with that, however I am not a charity. I have limited time to farm, and at times my few ways I make money can get boring, tanking is a fun alternative. But I will not let it hinder my personal agenda, so I expect something in return.

 

[sylvr]

EVERYONE is a product of retail, this whole 'reserved' and rampant paying for everything is a direct result of everyone feeling entitled to compensation for their time playing a game. Reserving gets done on private servers more than any other time in the games history and its because we were all spoiled with the idea what if you spend x amount of time doing something, you must be rewarded. Nothing will change as this is all already embedded into the culture and bitching on the forums won't do much. Just ignore people that reserve stuff or roll on everything anyway (the latter is more fun).

[smilkovpetko]

Another nerd poster that favor the most hated and bored Paladins.

Yes that's me Killerduki.

While people complain for the lack of Tanks , they all seems to forget that Paladins can do the job they are searching by having enough tanks for their BiS Gear.

Yet now i am not even done with my explanation, you already say this dude is stupid.

I play this game to enjoy it, i never ask fee in order to get someone in my groups and i rarely reserve items in my runs.
If i reserve item sometime this mean the item i chase for , i have already done over 10+ times this dungeon before i made my decision to reserve it.

Yeah now people tend to say that paladins can tank , but warriors are better.
Not really. We can do the same job as any warrior . Especially if the group is good , the runs can be twice faster.

Many people say that my world chat spamming : "Killerduki's Tankadin run LFM "Dungeon" (Streaming @ http://www.twitch.tv/killerduki) is just annoying and should be ignored.

Here are some of my Tanking Videos i have already done until now in Nostalrius :
https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=22875
And still more to come.

It is funny when i see people complain for "server lack tanks" , when many of the same people complain why i spam my macro for dungeons. (you want tank or you don't want tank).

Yet i play this game for fun and i never play for gold.
I do farm dungeons in any regular term and i enjoy in my groups , even tho my rule always been :
I don't want you to afk during my run, follow my lead and we do full clearing.
(funny many people already hate me for this rules)

My goal was if you want more Tanks in game, you have to stop this "paladins can't tank or warrior can do better" .
This will increase more competition and will lead into more tanks in the server.

In other way i face with people that are narrow mind such as : why would i give gear to this Paladin when Warrior get more use of that?

The server will not expand in TBC
(it will be new server and you can copy/transfer your character anytime there) .
So you got infinite time to enjoy in game , play with people you want and get your Gear soon or later.

The only demand i would start require for my tanking service when i hit lvl 60 and bis preraid will be :
You want Tank? You want to have preraid gear in order to raid ? Then hit me in the raiding Guild and you will have what you ask for.

The Game is made for everyone , and everyone can do their job in one or another way.
(different tank require only different tactic in raids) everything else is just same.

That's been said by me and if you looking for proper Paladin Tank (not some fail tank) you should have this 3 requirements :
Consecration+Sanctuary+Retribution Aura should always be on Paladin Tank.
This way you can see if the person is actually tank and not some fake tankadin.

You tend that Paladin Tank will oom and waste your time? don't think so.
There are skilled and unskilled tank, regardless if the person play warrior,paladin or druid.

Visit my video and see how paladin oom in 5 mans . And why life will be much easier for everyone if Paladin Tanks are more accepted by community .

https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=22875

Thank you <3
Cheers by Killerduki.

[Glenzig]

Simple solution. Tanks charge whatever for 5 mans. Healers charge them back 5% of that cost per heal. Dps charge 1 silver for every 10 points of dmg. Casters charge 1 gold per cc.