Anyone else feel sorry for these individuals?

[varth]

You realize the entire point of a pvp server is to allow................................. /gasp PVP?

You came to a pvp server where the rules governing world pvp haven't changed in a decade, and complain about it? Do you not see how stupid that is? Do you not see that the people that engage in these activities are ENCOURAGED by your complaining?

[zmandude24]

Do not start on the PvP server since it is full of toxic pricks. There's a difference between being ganked occasionally and a zone becoming unplayable. STV is now virtually unplayable at all times due to asshats camping lowbies there. What makes it worse is the responses to it are so toxic.

[varth]

It's virtually unplayable due to the sheer amount of people on the server. STV had a reputation for pain with 2500 people, of course it's going to be virtually unplayable with 10,000.

[eddyon]

My highest level character at the moment is a 55 alliance and I've got a couple of lower levels on both factions.

Just thought I'd post in here to say that it's honestly not that bad. I've been camped by a 60 just one time and that was a result of me getting bored while levelling in shimmering flats and going around killing all the horde for 30 mins, so someone logged their main for revenge.

Sure there are gankers about and I get killed by 60s everytime I play but not to the extent it's unplayable. Still make meaningful progress each time I'm on. Even stranglethorn Vale was generally fine. Nesingwary was basically permanently camped by 60s but the rest of the zone was no different to elsewhere really.

[killa162]

I'm one of those new players experiencing the current leveling from the Alliance side. Level 22 Hunter and Ashenvale 2-3 nights ago was terrible, it died down after a hour and they got bored because every time I resurrected they were right there, I just stood still and let them kill me without trying to move or use abilities back. Give them no enjoyment of killing you, if they see your character doing nothing then they won't care after killing you twice and will just move on.

[PanTheSatyr]

You realize the entire point of a pvp server is to allow................................. /gasp PVP?

You came to a pvp server where the rules governing world pvp haven't changed in a decade, and complain about it? Do you not see how stupid that is? Do you not see that the people that engage in these activities are ENCOURAGED by your complaining?

Honestly... yes, everything you say is true. And I know that my whining encourages their behavior. It just gets so frustrating that I need to vent... which encourages them... which frustrates me... and the Circle of Life continues and some baboon is holding up a lion cub or some shit.

[reysode]

I'm salty today. I am impressed by the skills of the Horde 60's killing 50-something Alliance while they're simply trying to quest. They are clearly very good at PvP... against 50's.

oh stop your inane faction favoring alliance does the same in searing gorge, i had a ashkandi ms warrior oneshot me few times while questing there. the only difference is that alliance bg ques are supposedly faster so idk how they have time to come up there unless they're just downright braindead honor farmers.

[Nokanda]

You are worth honor, and with so many people ranking right now you are just sitting fuck

sorry

[Jeddite]

These same crybads post sniveling "OMFG NO SKILL AWP CAMPERS111111111" threads on the Counter-Strike forums. And that game is older than WoWcraft.

[Crossbreed]

You realize the entire point of a pvp server is to allow................................. /gasp PVP?

It is indeed. Yet it's rather unreasonable to conclude anything like "so you just have to deal with it" or "don't play if you don't like this".

I'm reasonably sure nobody starts out on a PVP server because they enjoy getting ganked and camped constantly.
And I'm also pretty sure the vast majority of people don't start there either because they plan on ganking lowbies themselves later on. I guess the majority of players will never actively even go to any zone just to gank around.

I believe the motivation to play on a PVP server for the overwhelming majority of players is based on other gameplay aspects; city raids, large scalen open pvp, fighting fair battles. Some of the best memories I have back from classic, and even from Nost, were epic, long rivalries and duels with similarly leveled and geared players.

For most people, I'm confident that ganking is not the point of a PVP server, but rather a side effect; and for many probably even a rather unwelcome side effect.
I'd never play on a PVE server, but if there was PVP server that restricted excessive ganking, I'd join that without any hesitation.

The fact that ganking is part of PVP servers isn't god-given, but rather just an empirical fact.
It's very hard to classify what counts as reasonable fair fights and what constitues ganking, which might also be why Blizzard never really introduced any system to prevent that; even the relatively simple dishonorable kill principle didn't work out too well and was taken out at some point.
In theory though, it would be quite possible to have a PVP server and prevent or at least disincentivize it - just like "wall running" to get into bugged areas was forbidden, even though the game was heavily based on its open world and epxloration. And no, the right reaction wouldn't be to say "well then go play a game without any exploration". If certain mechanics can be abused, its well possible to refine them instead of just giving up on them altogether.