Please dont go all feenix and make GDKP raid runs legit :(

[Blacklisted]

Feenix is terrible. Thats not debatable.

[sloasdaylight]

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I'm not sure I'm following you.
Wouldn't the real problem be hacking, not GDKP then ?

And you just assume that abuse and hacks will happen, which I know nothing about, but seems to be a hasty & negative statement, isn't it ?

The real problem is hacking, or at least the possibility of it.

The hidden real reason, as best I can figure from threads like these, is that raiders who are in guilds who don't do GDKP runs don't like players who aren't in raid guilds getting raid loot, because that belongs to a specific group of people. Personally, my guild ran GDKP runs on retail when we were working our way through Naxx, purely because there are only so many nights your MT and OT can have 80-100g in repair bills before your start looking for alternate revenue streams as a guild. It helped us fill our coffers and got some newer players some gear, win/win as far as we were concerned.

[Skandale]

cause 1x and not Feenix script

You realize Feenix scripts are considerably harder than retail right? And 1x has nothing to do with GDKP. The concept is just a somewhat modern mmo-invention that has found it's way everywhere, I sincerely doubt it will be different here for whatever reason. I predict people will start running GDKP runs with alts + randoms quite fast.

We Realize that feenix is selling Epic and Legendary items for real money, despite insistint that they don't.

https://www.google.no/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... 0519,d.bGQ

[alucard001]

@Nujabes. True

[Solar]

I completely agree.

GDKP can and will cause many problems, regardless if people think it does or doesn't.

First and foremost, GDKP increases the need for gold exponentially to an extent ( If let continue ) that it will become physically impossible for new players to ever join a raid, simply because they do not have enough gold. Lets be real people, people are greedy. Why is someone going to let a fresh raider join, when you need a minimum of 5,000g to even join the raid. I've seen it many, many times, people would rather gear their alts than let new people join in.

Not to even mention the real issue with GDKP is increasing the chances gold buying/selling, people will buy gold. Yes, people could buy gold before GDKP, it's not a new thing. However, when you have a system that increases the demand of something(Gold) to the point that GDKP does, it has dire consequences on just about every aspect of the game and management team.

Your server now needs 10x the amount of gold as it did before, because 80% of the server is now running GDKP. Where does that gold come from? Well, you could say many things... Quite frankly most of the gold comes from bots and gold selling. Which now starts to suck up resources from the management team, as they have to try and deal with these issues to the best of their ability otherwise it can and will destroy the economy of the server.

In a perfect world GDKP could be done, and it could be "ok". I don't think I personally would be participating in it. Unfortunately, we don't live in a perfect world, and it's very far from such.

I seen a few people in the thread asking as to how you would stop GDKP, it's quite easy frankly. Make a rule stating you're not allowed to host or participate in GDKP runs, punishment = ??. It's quite hard to recruit 19/39 other people for a raid that isn't even allowed to happen.

-This is more of a rant.
Not to mention how poorly pug groups can be set up, most "leaders" of these groups don't care about much except their end profits, considering the leader will usually take an extra cut of the total gold, typically 5-10% or so. As such I've seen rich people bidding on items they can't even use, nor trade. Usually they'll say that they wanted to give the raid a boost of gold.
^^ I'm aware that I will probably receive a comment saying " That shouldn't be allowed. " ^^
It's a pug run, they're out to make as much money as possible, not gear you up.

[Provocative]

GDKP is fine. Just prevent gold exploiting.

https://youtu.be/RybNI0KB1bg

[smilkovpetko]

There was already real debate about this system when the project was crumbling and sound similar like this now (full with people and gdkp was presented as "purple and shiny")
It all end up doomed to disaster because this is not blizzard that use expansions and things here are different.

Just a reminder for everyone : in the previous project feenix where i played server warsong used gdkp
It made the server Pug > Guild raids (similar to blizzard lfr version).
it killed the server within 1.5 year (from very full server down to ghost town). "talking about warsong not ed"

so please don't bring this monster system here. I hope nostalrius will prevent such "sell runs" that includes gdkp selling items for gold.

I don't want same story here because it will wipe out progressing guilds and guild that raid for fun, economy will be unstable , people will become greedy and self minded without any team spirit because Gold > Gear.

Also keep in mind scammers are all encouraged by gdkp and it will become sport for them.

pls don't do this at least in nostalrius thank you/.

everything that advertise this system how "purple with roses" is just false propaganda and system is deadly abused too.


(dont believe in false propaganda because people who brough gdkp in feenix play also here now and they planing to start doing that which i only hope nostalrius will not allow it).

[Casieqt]

the reason for the dead of peenix was NOT gdkp ....

[PriestInOurTime]

:o the reason for the dead of peenix was NOT gdkp ....

Post hoc ergo propter hoc.

[cookiemonster212]

GDKP should be a restricted or banned practice. Players who have to rely on being carried through raids are players who one can assume would otherwise be unable to obtain raid gear.

This would have irreversible negative effects on PvP and the game economy. As mrmr said, it incentivizes exploitation and hacking, and would even potentially create a black market where people pay hackers cash for gold and then those same hackers take gold payments to carry people through raids. It would spiral into a huge shit show.

Is this becoming a trend? "I don't like what others is doing, therefore they must be banned."